Fairy Liquid - discuss

[nogrille]

so does it remove wax etc?

I used it on many cars over the years without any problems.

Over to you lot......

[Alex L]

i did a strip down on my cavs bonnet for a little experimenting, i washed with a strong solution of washing up liquid, rinsed, dried, clayed, scratchX, SFX 2, washing up liquid again, clayed and washing up liquid, then a thorough rinse.

i then applied the sealants i was comparing with a 6-10 inch gap inbetween with no product on so there was no cross contamination between the sealants and after 3 weeks the whole bonnet still beads fairly evenly.

the only time you can notice the difference is when i sheet the rinse water off, the untreated bits take longer to sheet off where-as the treated bits it sheets off straight away.

[Rich]

It does a great job on washing out my pads!

[AndyC]

Same here Rich :D

TBH unless you're claying too, Fairy can be beaten by stonger sealants - i.e. you will still get beading, albeit reduced. I tend to use Fairy on any new car of my own initially to strip everything that might be on there but I'll then follow up with clay and then a further *normal* wash and rinse then polishing.

I see no issue with this - probably a waste of time in truth if you're undertaking a fairly rigorous detail anyway.

[WX51 TXR]

Just doesn't seem right to me... I tend to use 303 Aerospace Cleaner for stripping old waxes and sealants. But as you say Andy, if the PC comes out and anything more than a pure polish is used, then an initial stripping stage just doesn't seem worth it.

[JJ_]

Fairy for the dishes and the missus lol.

Just use a double concentrate of your normal shampoo if it is very soiled, Fairy is too risky for me, I prefer proper car shampoo.

[k18dan]

I wont use it, I Just think of the all that fairy and water running into small areas i.e. behind wings, and 'guttering' below windscreen, striping wax ect.. where you carnt get, to apply new coat of protection

[roadwarrior]

I could be wrong but I believe the problem with using washing up liquid is due to the fact it has a very high salt content too soften the water and make lots of washing suds.

[L200 Steve]

If it's a full detail, and I want a really squeaky clean surface to start with, I'll wash with Finish Kare 1119. This is the only thing that I have found that cleans off all sealants, along with any other bonded rubbish like tar and sap. It saves a load of time in claying. Fairy not having quite the detergent power needed sometimes. FK might be worth using as an option before something like Zaino, that needs a perfectly clean surface to bond to.

If it's just a normal wash of one of my sealed and waxed vehicles, then a soaking with NXT and the foam gun normally suffices.

Alex - The triplets still doing okay then?:) :) ;)

Steve

[Peter D]

It does a great job on washing out my pads!

That's what I use aswell, but it seems to struggle with OCP.

[182_blue]

i used it once on my comapny car just for a laugh, and the paint felt and looked horrid after, which would of been put right with some work, but i would rather leave it alone

[Alex L]

If it's a full detail, and I want a really squeaky clean surface to start with, I'll wash with Finish Kare 1119. This is the only thing that I have found that cleans off all sealants, along with any other bonded rubbish like tar and sap. It saves a load of time in claying. Fairy not having quite the detergent power needed sometimes. FK might be worth using as an option before something like Zaino, that needs a perfectly clean surface to bond to

this might be a good investment for the big spring clean we'll all be doing next year, is it safe on all paints Steve?

Alex - The triplets still doing okay then?:) ;)
Steve
:) ;)
due another wash monday, as the girlfriend parked it under some bushes, it was covered in leaves and cr*p so should be a good how its been affected

[Rich]

That's what I use aswell, but it seems to struggle with OCP.

Yeap thats on oily one, I apply the Fairy direct to the pad, massage it in, then allow to soak in a bucket of water with woolite in it. All pads are looking brand new still.

[L200 Steve]

The Finish Kare 1119 is safe on all paints Alex. Finish Kare supply most major USA main dealers.

Everything I've used it on so far has been okay.

I just need some sample bottles to hold it, so I can get some sent out. The ones I've tried so far have not been suitable.

I think it'd be ideal for that first big detail of springtime.

I'll keep you posted.

Steve

[Suasexed]

Yeap thats on oily one, I apply the Fairy direct to the pad, massage it in, then allow to soak in a bucket of water with woolite in it. All pads are looking brand new still.

Where do you get your Woolite from?

[182_blue]

i was wondering that

[Chevy]

Where do you get your Woolite from?

Morrisons and Asda sell it.

[Paintshield]

Best Thing I know for de-waxing a car is TFR (Truck wash) it gets anything off (Pretty much) However it is caustic so handle with care DO NOT use it in the sun and Always keep it wet it only needs to stay on the car a couple of minutes.

Observe the dilution rates between 3-6% max depending on what you are trying to remove if used correctly it will NOT harm the paint. However the concentration increases as it it dries so if left too long it WILL attack the paint. Always use goggles and gloves with this stuff as it will irritate eyes and skin. It is designed for getting tar and rubber residues off Trucks and does a great job at this.



Fairy can be used in appropriate concentrations if you want to get wax off the car (As can any strong detergent), for general cleaning though it is a nono because it will take the wax off:) Hope this helps

Tom

[AndyC]

Personally I'd NEVER use Truckwash on any car - even diluted it will cause damage - just not worth taking the risk. TFR's do also come in less potent formulae which would be paint safe.

Alex/Rich - get yourselves some DP Pad Cleaning Powder/Granules. Leave pads to soak overnight and NOTHING stays in them - trust me :)

[Rich]

Autoglym do different grades of TFR (which i understood to be traffic film remover?) the mildest being Motorcylce cleaner/engine and machine.

Last lot of Woolite I got was from Tescos.

Andy i will have to try some, have had no problem with Fairy and Woolite.

[Paintshield]

Personally I'd NEVER use Truckwash on any car - even diluted it will cause damage - just not worth taking the risk. TFR's do also come in less potent formulae which would be paint safe.

Alex/Rich - get yourselves some DP Pad Cleaning Powder/Granules. Leave pads to soak overnight and NOTHING stays in them - trust me :)


MMM It is the only thing that will get some stuff like Shipping waxes, off the car for most people and if used properly in our experience will NOT cause damage. As with all things use it incorrectly it WILL screw your paint. Most cars at PDI centres end up getting a bath in TFR where shipping waxes rather than Vinyls are used to protect the cars, however it will only work on co-polymer based shipping waxes, parafin based products are unnaffected by it.


Cheers

Tom

[AndyC]

Meguiars APC+ will remove cosmoline and other shipping treatments - did on my Astra anyway.

I'd simply be scared to use anything *that* potentially harmful on my paint personally :)

[Paintshield]

Meguiars APC+ will remove cosmoline and other shipping treatments - did on my Astra anyway.

I'd simply be scared to use anything *that* potentially harmful on my paint personally :)


We will give this a go We use a number of Meggy products but never tried that one :)

Mind you there are some situations that you just cannot correct we had a customer come with what appeared to pe shipping wax with stains in it, on a brand new motor. After 3 hours of cleaning prior to fitting Paint Protection film, it slowly dawned on my guys there was something fundamentally wrong! Having gotten involved personally it became evident that we were possibly looking at overspray on the clear coat LOL Quick visit to confirm from my local friendly paint sprayer and bobs your uncle :) The thing was these marks looked just like water marks left behind from a bad valeting so it was easy to see how my guys were fooled. required a buffing down and fresh coat of clear coat :) 3 week old car as well!!!



Cheers

Tom

[JJ_]

Some of the body solvent solutions will also work.

Fairy is only for the dishes for me, I just find if it lies on rubber or any plastic trim it stains or damages it.

Why add salt and other non paint safe chemicals when we try for so long to remove then.

[pugoman]

Why add salt and other non paint safe chemicals when we try for so long to remove then.

I think you'd be surprised by how many car shampoos contain salt. I know for a fact that a much loved car shampoo that goes by the name of 'Sonax Gloss Shampoo' contains salt.

[Brazo]

^^Salt in sonus is 'salt' in the true sense as a 'derivitaive of an acid' rather than NaCl which you pour on your chips :)

I have used fairy on my paint before before applying zaino

I do use AG TFR on wheel wells engine etc at a dilution of 4parts water to 1 part TFR. It works extremly well but thanks for teh heads up Tom I will be sure to wash off any overspray immediatly!

[JJ_]

I think you'd be surprised by how many car shampoos contain salt. I know for a fact that a much loved car shampoo that goes by the name of 'Sonax Gloss Shampoo' contains salt.

lol lucky I dont use it then.

I don't trust the stuff im sure it even says not reccomended for vehicle washing. Not on the label but maybe on the site?

[mjstokes85]

I need to strip off my old wax etc today, so would it be worth using fairy liquid?

[roadwarrior]

There is no need to use fairy to strip off wax. If you are stripping I would assume your next step would be clay followed by a paint cleaner like DC#1, these will remove any previous polish/wax. If you are using a 1 step (AG SRPfor eg.) these also have paint cleaners in.

I believe (only from other threads) the only time you need to use washing up liquid is if you are using Zaino, which specifically asks you to do so.