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I recently finally took the plunge and purchased a Rotary polisher after experiencing the PC for over a year. The pictures of Brazo's recent excellent work finally pushed me to buy one along with his excellent find of the Aote rotary on ebay at only £20.
I was to much of a wimp to take the rotary stright to a car so I set of to the scrapyard at the weekend in hunt of a practise panel. I found this lovely bonnet lying on the floor, here it is in all its glory.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/b4.jpg
After a wash and clay the bonnet was look a little cleaner.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/afterwashclay.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/afterwashclay1.jpg
Next the fun began with the rotary. I started off with a nice mild pad and polish in the form of Meguiars #82 and a green sonus pad. This made a small improvement but I was looking for better. Next came Meguiars #83 and a white LC polishing pad, result. I applied 4 small pea size drops of polish around the centre of the pad spread the polish around quarter of the bonnet @ 600RPM, I was suprised at how the polisher bogged down with no pressure. Once the polish was spread out I incread the speed to 900RPM made 2 passes inspected for defects and heat. The panel was still cool and defects remained so I primed the pad again increased the speed to 1500 made 4 passes and result. Only deep isolated random scrathces remained that only a repaint would fix.
I followed Meguiars #83 with Meguiars #82 on a green sonus pad using the same procedure as above. This was then followed by a layer of Meguiars NXT and finally a layer of Nattys Blue. The end result.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/after.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/after1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/after2.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/k80ajd/after3.jpg
I was quite pleased with the end result for my first experience of rotary polishing. From a faded red bonnet to a bright glossy bonnet in just over half an hour. Even better still I remained clean with no sling or buffer hopping. Admitidley it is going to be different taking a rotary to a car, but I've now got a good a taster of what rotary polishing is like and with time, patience, correct pads and polishes I am more confident with the rotary than before.
I've got a lovely swirled panther black tuned Ford Mondeo 2.5 V6 coming to see me next week so the roary will make another appearance then.
As for my scrap bonnet, next job is to practise W&D on the polished half and then polish the sanding marks out.
Thanks for reading
K80
Neil_S
01-11-2005, 11:26 AM
Incredible! I will be interested to read your write up on the Mondeo!
charliecroker
01-11-2005, 04:49 PM
:eek: :eek: thou partook of thee challenge on halloween yes!!!!!!THEE IST A MASTER OF THEE DARK ARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :D
182_blue
01-11-2005, 07:35 PM
excellent mate, not the best surface to practice on either, did you use #82 after the #83 ?
ps is it this one you bought http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8011524196&fromMakeTrack=true
neilos
01-11-2005, 08:13 PM
WOW, thats amazing. Can't wait to see before and after pictures on the Mondeo.
paulhdi
01-11-2005, 08:28 PM
good work Andrew, old chap!
Aint used mine yet, but may give it a go this week with the cyclo.
No buffer hop at all, eh? sounding good.
Excellent turnaround from the state of the panel at the start.
Paul
Looks great! What a transformation.
Alex L
01-11-2005, 08:59 PM
excellent mate, not the best surface to practice on either, did you use #82 after the #83 ?
ps is it this one you bought http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8011524196&fromMakeTrack=true
are you going to buy this Shaun, cos if your not i will
182_blue
01-11-2005, 09:13 PM
i think i will,but no worries according to the advert he has 40 + of them :D
L200 Steve
01-11-2005, 09:25 PM
Nice one K80.
I too have a couple of panels that I practice on. Thats an amazing result there, nice one.
Here's a couple of pics of mine, as I played at removing industrial fallout (foundry iron oxide dust) from an old AX bonnet with an acid based decon kit.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3360/dscf01951ng.jpg
After polishing with SFX2
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6579/dscf01969sj.jpg
Steve
Alex L
01-11-2005, 09:37 PM
i think i will,but no worries according to the advert he has 40 + of them :D
cool, might buy two, one for each hand:) :)
182_blue
01-11-2005, 09:37 PM
what machine did you use on that steve
L200 Steve
01-11-2005, 09:44 PM
The same sulphuric acid mix as used on the TT225 Shaun.
Clayed it half hour later.
Then hit it with the PC, white SFX and SFX2.
Had to try the acid out before pouring it over the TT:D
I'm trying to find the pic of a black bonnet I practice putting holograms on then removing with the Metabo turned up high with SSR2.5.
Steve
Brazo
01-11-2005, 10:07 PM
After using the aote rotary I really rate it for what it is i.e. a £20 polisher! The fact that it bogs down at lower speeds is imo agood thing as it makes it that bit safer although at higher speeds it doesn't bog down.
However I am now in a quandry do I copy Steve and buy a meatabo as I've taken the leap and a rotary will now become part of my ****nal or do i buy another aote for when/if mine packs up?
Decisons decisons!
Spammy
01-11-2005, 10:30 PM
Does this mean we dont need to spend £200+ on a PC? :P
neilos
01-11-2005, 10:38 PM
Does this mean we dont need to spend £200+ on a PC? :P
LOL, yeah, I'm wondering this too. Much that I would love a PC, I think it's a bit overkill for the Smart I've got, I mean, the PC will be the same size as the car...:rolleyes:
I may go for that polisher from Motorworld and get an old panel and practice on..:)
Alex L
01-11-2005, 10:44 PM
Does this mean we dont need to spend £200+ on a PC? :P
unfortunatly you will probably need a PC aswell,
a rotary will help in defect removal and make it much quicker and easier than a PC, put you may also impart micro-marring with a rotary which is much easier to remove by PC.
also a PC is better for applying Sealants, glazes and waxes.
182_blue
02-11-2005, 07:30 AM
Does this mean we dont need to spend £200+ on a PC? :P
no its as well as, the pc is very safe to use especially for beginers, the rotary can be dangerous for your paint in untrained hands :eek: , hence why people are practising, i wouldnt expect to do a whole car with the rotary unless it was really bad, and even then i would finish with a pc ,and i would use a pc regulaly on my car were as i would only use the rotary the once (unless i get a small area of damage)
182_Blue
I followed #83 with #82.
That is indeed the polisher I bought. There are quite a few people who have purchased one now. Excellent service from the guy including next day delivery. Although it didnt come with a 17m spaner to change the backing plate so I bought one from Machine Mart along with a 5inch backing plate.
Paul
Is the guy from Meguiars UK still able to get the cyclos?
Not a hop in sight maybe i was lucky but I was ultra carefull.
Steve
Nice work on that bonnet, hang it in your garage!
Brazo
I think im going to keep using the Aote until it dies and then purchase either the Metabo or Makita.
paulhdi
02-11-2005, 10:02 AM
k80,
Yes, he sent mine out for me last week, and it got here 1st thing yesterday.
PM sent
roadwarrior
02-11-2005, 10:34 PM
LOL, yeah, I'm wondering this too. Much that I would love a PC, I think it's a bit overkill for the Smart I've got, I mean, the PC will be the same size as the car...:rolleyes:
I may go for that polisher from Motorworld and get an old panel and practice on..:)
Is that the re-badged Megs one ( for alot less cash!!)
neilos
02-11-2005, 11:19 PM
Is that the re-badged Megs one ( for alot less cash!!)
Yup, I think so...:)
182_blue
03-11-2005, 07:39 AM
Is that the re-badged Megs one ( for alot less cash!!)
more like the megs is a rebadged motorworld one ;) , ps folks its only any good for applying wax and removing products, it will not remove swirls, even so it may be handy
neilos
03-11-2005, 10:12 AM
more like the megs is a rebadged motorworld one ;) , ps folks its only any good for applying wax and removing products, it will not remove swirls, even so it may be handy
Looks like I need a PC then. Got some terrible swirls on the black bodywork (tridion), which I *think* is powdercoated..:(
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