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Brazo
20-02-2006, 06:42 PM
First up the Super resin Polish

Wanted to see how abrasive it is by hand and by pc.

First up I made a small scratch in the laquer as a reference point so that I could get exact before and after readings.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments002.jpg

The paint was 346 microns thick

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments001.jpg

This area was then machine polished with the Porter cable, SRP and a white sfx polishing pad with 6 inch backing plate and counter weight.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments004.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments013.jpg

The end result was a loss of 1 micron or 1/1000ths of a millimeter.

Next up same process but by hand

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments006.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments005.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments014.jpg

No detectable loss when using SRP by hand.



Next up is Meguiars #80 all filler and no 'killer'???

Used with a white sfx pad and pc speeds 5-6

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments008.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments009.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Somemoreexperiments012.jpg

The image of the light is slighty sharper before the IPA wipedown indicating some oils are present but its still a SMR to be reckoned with!
182_blue
20-02-2006, 06:52 PM
excellent write up again maet
GlynRS2
20-02-2006, 06:56 PM
Keep going with your experiments please Professor Brazo
roadwarrior
20-02-2006, 07:12 PM
:doublesho I knew SRP was harsh but didnt realise it was quite as harsh as that!
182_blue
20-02-2006, 07:23 PM
:doublesho I knew SRP was harsh but didnt realise it was quite as harsh as that!

i dont think 1 micron is harsh :D
Brazo
20-02-2006, 07:37 PM
^Nor me lol!!
JJ_
20-02-2006, 07:38 PM
lol nah roadwarrior 1 micron is pretty minute, SRP is really low down on the abrasive chart.
BenP
20-02-2006, 07:42 PM
I don't think SRP is abraisive at all - I reckon it was the pad that took that 1 micron with it and not the polish.

Ben
Mr Shiny
20-02-2006, 07:50 PM
That really interesting Brazo, i use SRP a lot say if you used this everyday by hand would you remove any paint? Cheers from Tom :thumb:
Rich
20-02-2006, 07:52 PM
Another great test and write up, you love that new toy!
Brazo
20-02-2006, 08:20 PM
That really interesting Brazo, i use SRP a lot say if you used this everyday by hand would you remove any paint? Cheers from Tom :thumb:

Eventually a little :thumb:

Have you seen my pm?
L200 Steve
20-02-2006, 08:36 PM
Yet another great test Brazo.

Get yourself a nice 'oxidated' panel next mate.
Alex L
20-02-2006, 08:38 PM
Did you try #80 by hand aswell?
As i think Mr Shiney will be using it by hand soon;)

Great little tests too

Alex:thumb:
Brazo
20-02-2006, 09:20 PM
Yet another great test Brazo.

Get yourself a nice 'oxidated' panel next mate.

Still got half a panel from last week :lol:
roadwarrior
20-02-2006, 09:45 PM
Considering SRP is not supposed to be abrasive at all I would say them results would surprise quite a few people as to how much paint it does remove.
182_blue
20-02-2006, 10:08 PM
i micron is nothing mate, you could probably stick water on a pad and remove 1 micron, its the difference between panel having slight dirt on it and it not having dirt on it
Neil_S
20-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Great test mate, impressed how well #80 worked on the panel :buffer:
Brazo
20-02-2006, 10:30 PM
I am still under the opinion SRP is abrasive just extremly mild
Throbbe
21-02-2006, 09:38 AM
Not sure what the error range on the guage is, but I'd actually be pretty impressed to get 2 identical readings with no process at all, so I'd say 1 micron is negligable.
Brazo
21-02-2006, 10:28 AM
^its more acurate at the lower thickness readings +\- 0.5 micron, so yeah I take your point, negligible!!
Mr Shiny
28-02-2006, 02:27 PM
Brazo, is SRP a chemichal and mild abrasive polish then? :thumb:
Beeste
28-02-2006, 04:22 PM
Great news Brazo! I love the SRP and can rest alittle easier now. Why didn't you measure the #80 too? Or did I miss something?
Brazo
28-02-2006, 05:04 PM
I have measured it before with #80 Bri in my other thread and could not get any tangiable differences as its so mild.
joe
28-02-2006, 09:10 PM
Brazo

What about the SSR range? Say SSR2/2.5?

Any plans to test them?

Or even Menzerna?
Brazo
28-02-2006, 09:18 PM
Yep!

Mezerna IP (courtesy of Rich @polished bliss) will be tested alongside ssr2.5 soon enough!
Beeste
28-02-2006, 10:03 PM
Yep!

Mezerna IP (courtesy of Rich @polished bliss) will be tested alongside ssr2.5 soon enough!

Really looking to forward to your results here.
Neil_S
28-02-2006, 10:11 PM
Really looking to forward to your results here.

Me too, I think your tag line should be "The Scientist" with all these experiments :buffer: