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bilt-hamber kid
04-04-2008, 03:03 PM
.. we were to launch 3 new products this year, what should they be?

King Eric
04-04-2008, 03:06 PM
An invincible wheel cleaner, safe on all wheels....which requires no scrubbing and also removes tar

An uber thick shaving foam consistency snow foam

Something to really clean those arches....

matt1263
04-04-2008, 03:16 PM
tar remover

alloy cleaner

stainless steel cleaner/polisher so you dont see all those damned scratch marks left by wire wool etc

Mixman
04-04-2008, 03:28 PM
Super sudding shampoo

Glass cleaner/water repellant

Wheel wax/sealent

Shug
04-04-2008, 03:31 PM
Underseal ;)
Snow Foam
and manta restoration paste :lol: or more seriously, some chrome/metal polish.

freon warrior
04-04-2008, 07:20 PM
I agree with KE, a top notch wheel cleaner would be great.

PhillipM
04-04-2008, 08:42 PM
A detailing spray.
Glaze/finishing polish for use before Autobalm
A huge version of the etchweld aerosol to stop me having to get the spray gun out everytime.

Dave KG
04-04-2008, 08:49 PM
I would, as above, love to see a good wheel cleaner being launched as there is the market there - good wheel cleaners are out there, but not in huge numbers.

I would also love to see some preparation products: finishing, even a correcting polish for use before the autobalm. Yes, I know it contains fillers to deal with the marks, but where possible, removal is always superior but it would still be nice to benefit from autobalm's other attributes.

Whatever you launch... please, not another wax! The market is getting saturated now...

Hair Bear
04-04-2008, 08:58 PM
A durable tyre shine product :thumb:
A durable wheel sealant :thumb:
AIO engine bay cleaner and shiney coat :thumb:

stupidmonkfish
04-04-2008, 08:58 PM
Glass cleaner/sealent.

Wheel cleaner.

Tar remover.

Neil_S
04-04-2008, 09:12 PM
Snow foam yes

A caliper paint kit would be cool, but not sure you want to head in the paint direction

Something innovative, please no more waxes

L200 Steve
04-04-2008, 09:16 PM
A semi permanent random depth scratch remover - some form of high molecular strength acrylic. Wipe it over a scratch, then after a short cure period, buff it off.

A reactive metal / alloy cleaner for cleaning up those textured finishes often found under the bonnet (Audi TT induction pipe for example)

A heavy cutting but zero dusting glass polish.

Blazebro
04-04-2008, 11:10 PM
An interior dressing. Something that cleans the marks off and leaves a nice mat finish.

Your own range of microfibre towels.

Phisp
04-04-2008, 11:10 PM
Wheel cleaner - spray on, p/w off, job done

Tar remover - spray on, p/w off, job done

Glass cleaner/polish and sealant.

Neil_S
04-04-2008, 11:23 PM
Here is a challenge for your chemistry geniuses, a sort of face peel but for car paint.

You apply the product and it forms to like a skin which you peel back to reveal fabulously clean paint.

Probably not possible, but sounds very cool!

Silva1
04-04-2008, 11:28 PM
glass polish which can remove glass defects at a low price :p

bilt hamber MF's/Pads

PhillipM
04-04-2008, 11:29 PM
And for another 3:

-As above, heavy cutting glass polish.
-Aluminium polish with an immense cut, I do a lot of billet stuff and getting rid of the machine marks is a right ballache even with autosol on the rotary, maybe you could combine with #1 somehow.
-A decent lacquer to go with the etchweld!

Neil_S
04-04-2008, 11:33 PM
Heavy cutting glass polish, I'll buy a pint for the first person to 'go through' when rotarying the windscreen :lol:

Neil_S
04-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Forgot to add, a decontamination kit please

Mattieuk
05-04-2008, 08:07 AM
For me it would be:
1/ A foam (pre wash) that is wax safe and could be used by hose & PW.
2/ A wheel cleaner that is safe and is a spay on wash off type. ...but works!
3/ A glass polish that doesn't dust or streak

Ducky
05-04-2008, 08:10 AM
A wax! :D

(just kidding ;) )

L200 Steve
05-04-2008, 09:26 PM
Forgot to add, a decontamination kit please

Deox-C?

Theory says it should already work, I'd just prefer not to be the first one to test this one though:lol:

Neil_S
06-04-2008, 09:46 AM
Deox-C?

Theory says it should already work, I'd just prefer not to be the first one to test this one though:lol:

Good point :lol:

Reminds me of American Hotrod with the acid bath :doublesho

Bigpikle
06-04-2008, 01:02 PM
what hasnt been suggested :rolleyes:

1. acid free wheel cleaner

2. some form of quick top-up product to use over AB after washing, but adds some additional protection in a quick, wipe on, buff off spray form

3. one step polish - abrasive with the ability to clean & prep the surface well before AB or another LSP....

slindborg
07-04-2008, 09:24 AM
1. course grade autoclay :D (or a baaad ass wheel cleaner, ill let you test on my wheels too if you wish lol)
2. glass cleaner/rain-x stylee finish
3. hmmm not sure.

PJS
08-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Here is a challenge for your chemistry geniuses, a sort of face peel but for car paint.

You apply the product and it forms to like a skin which you peel back to reveal fabulously clean paint.

Probably not possible, but sounds very cool!

Snap! Been "dreaming" of a clay type peel, to remove those bonded contaminants.

Silva1
08-04-2008, 04:56 PM
what about bilt hamber accesiories

ie brushes, mitts , buckets , MF and so on

PJS
08-04-2008, 05:12 PM
Sure, once the line-up is complete or filled out a bit more. Products that can stand tall in the marketplace are rightly given greater emphasis, before branded ancillaries are added, if at all.
After all, it's only those who are enthusiastic about Zaino, Pinnacle, Wolfgang, etc that'll be remotely interested in the extra branding on buckets, et al - you need to build your market up to a level where there are sufficient numbers to even consider investing in branded/OEM tools.

Neil_S
08-04-2008, 05:53 PM
Snap! Been "dreaming" of a clay type peel, to remove those bonded contaminants.

I was also thinking, how cool would it be to get up after a days detailing and peel off this clay type peel, ready to go the next day, no need to dust down the car or anything.

I was even thinking if a peel type product could be produced that didn't clay, that'd be great, you could use it as above, but also if I was away and wanted to leave the car, I could apply the peel and would want it to be a barrier to anything I couldn't attend to like bird bombs.

bilt-hamber kid
11-04-2008, 08:58 AM
Interesting. We are on similar wavelengths in many areas and development work is ongoing. Pete will feed me Deox Gel if I say anymore..

Blazebro
11-04-2008, 07:46 PM
Something that gets white marks off black trims. There's nothing really on the market. I'm told peanut butter works very well, but the smell makes me feel sick.

So here's your challenge. Give me something that returns the black/grey trim to a show room standard, dosen't look false (like Back To Black) and is easy to use and gets rid of white wax stains.

Wonderdetail
11-04-2008, 07:52 PM
There is. It's called wax blaster. Tim @ CYC sells it.

Kron
11-04-2008, 08:35 PM
Duragloss also make one called 481 Wax Eraser.

Wozza
11-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Something that gets white marks off black trims. There's nothing really on the market. I'm told peanut butter works very well, but the smell makes me feel sick.

So here's your challenge. Give me something that returns the black/grey trim to a show room standard, dosen't look false (like Back To Black) and is easy to use and gets rid of white wax stains.

There is. It's called wax blaster. Tim @ CYC sells it.

Wax blaster never works for me on many different trims on different cars with different wax / trim contamination.

The best thing I have found is the JML magic eraser sponge.

Bilt-Hamber Lab
13-04-2008, 07:19 AM
Something that gets white marks off black trims. There's nothing really on the market. I'm told peanut butter works very well, but the smell makes me feel sick.

So here's your challenge. Give me something that returns the black/grey trim to a show room standard, dosen't look false (like Back To Black) and is easy to use and gets rid of white wax stains.

These stains are caused by the wax, abrasive or combination of both. For example T1 grade carnauba is yellow, therefore when deposited from solvent in textured plastic leaves yellow wax staining (the ones that don't stain use oil in the formulation). White aluminium silicate and other abrasives are also a pain on plastics, invariably it gets left behind with the film former and is a PITA to remove. Any oil that you apply to the stain should temporarily "black it”, but to remove it though you'll need a solvent and a mechanical agitation (white spirit and a tooth brush).

I've never looked at making a bespoke cleaner though it's piqued my interest.

Blazebro
13-04-2008, 10:48 PM
Naturally if you want someone to road test me I'm not far away, and pulling my hair out to boot!

PJS
15-04-2008, 10:53 AM
New products contain plenty of UV inhibitors (if Balm doesn't already, which doesn't appear to be the case according to the website), and possibly start smelling a little bit less industrial.
Nothing too outlandish - coconut/vanilla/mint, provided they don't affect or interfere with the product's performance.
Thinking the wider market with that aspect.

Adnoh
01-06-2008, 01:13 PM
1) quick detailer - a wax topup product to use between Ab applications

2) glass filler/polish - to remove minor scratches, bead rain and resist mist.

3) Bumper/tyre spray

PK001
02-06-2008, 05:47 PM
"hear, hear!" to the above post

bassologist
02-06-2008, 05:55 PM
glass cleaner, tyre dressing, interior dressing .. BH wont be far off having everything to clean a car then

Adnoh
02-06-2008, 07:55 PM
glass cleaner, tyre dressing, interior dressing .. BH wont be far off having everything to clean a car then

cant wait woo! :D

bilt-hamber kid
03-06-2008, 06:13 AM
It seems we soon won't need a marketing dept. We have PJ. <<coughs, farts, whistles, winks>>

silver bmw z3
03-06-2008, 08:26 AM
Seems people want products that already exist of exceptional quality elsewhere, how about something that really does remove white marks from plastics/trims ?

PJS
03-06-2008, 10:16 AM
It seems we soon won't need a marketing dept. We have PJ. <<coughs, farts, whistles, winks>>

Look Al, as promising as all that sounds, I'm still not doing a sleepover with you.
How many times must I remind you that what those two get up to in Boston Legal, is purely fictional and not real?
It's just a TV show!

:D

cheezemonkhai
03-06-2008, 03:44 PM
- Wheel Cleaner that is easy on alloys and works well.
- A QD that you could use in the place of last touch for QD/lube/Drying aid.
- A good All in one Polish/Cleaner possibly with a bit of sealant in it that you can apply a wax over.