Taming the beast that is Original Edition

[rubbishboy]

Original Edition is different to just about any other wax out there. It's made in very small batches, 4 at a time actually, and each jar is inspected and tested on paintwork (you may even be able to see my finger marks in the wax in some pots!) before being labelled and approved for use.

It uses ingredients that can be bought easily by anyone, some even from the supermarket. The equipment used in it's manufacture is also available to anyone with a bit of ingenuity. It's conception and some recipes of it's brothers and sisters can be read about here (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=38432).

It has a different texture compared to commercial waxes, and may well be different to what you are used to, it just needs a slightly different application technique to mainstream waxes. The trick is to start the wax off before you try to spread it. Don't rush it take your time and enjoy the experience.

How to tame it.

You can apply it using your hands, a fairly dense good quality microfibre cloth, microfibre applicator or foam applicator. Although if using a foam applicator I would recommend using a microfibre or your fingers to start the wax and then switch to a foam pad to apply. Using a cloth or applicator is the best way to achieve a thin, even coat. If you have sensitive skin or are sensitive to Limonene (also called Orange Oil or Turpene) or just don't want stuff like this on your hands, use an applicator and wear latex gloves.

Applying by Hand

First start some wax, either scrape some wax from the jar with your finger nail or a teaspoon and place in your hand. Work the wax with you fingers to soften it and once the oils are flowing you can then massage your hands together to get a coating on your hands. A little will go a long way and the heat from your hands will help it spread.

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Massage your hands all over the paintwork to spread the wax over the car. Try to apply a very thin layer and ensure that you apply an even coat. Don't allow the wax to build up and cake on.

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Applying by Foam Applicator

To start the wax when applying by foam applicator, scrape the top layer of wax in the jar with a finger nail or teaspoon leaving the scrapings in the top of the jar. Use your fingers or the applicator to rub the scrapings in the top of jar to get the oils flowing. Once softened you will have a nice little bit of wax on the applicator ready to be applied.

A couple of tips when using an applicator:

Dampen the pad with QD first to help the pad glide over the paint.
Warm the applicator first, it will help the wax spread.

Gently rub the wax coated applicator into the paintwork, using a circular motion, ensuring an even and thin coating. Work the wax out as far as possible, don't over apply it.

Applying by MF Cloth or MF Applicator

Use the same technique as the foam above, the extra bite from the MF will help start the wax.

Apply to the rest of the car

When you have run out of the softened up top layer of wax, just start some more in the same way.

The secret is to apply a very thin, and I mean very thin layer of wax. This will help with the curing and the removal of the product.

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Apply the wax to the whole car. Try to avoid direct sunlight, but if working in the sun with hot panels you will find the wax will dry out quicker and doesn't need to be left so long to cure, so in that instance apply and remove a panel at a time.

Curing and removal.

Original Edition does need some time to cure and setup on the paint, it uses quite a slow evaporating solvent which gives you plenty of time to apply the wax, but also means it doesn't like to be rushed while curing.

Leave plenty of time, about 20 minutes should be about right, before removing the excess wax. Use the "Swipe Test" to see if it's ready, wipe a finger over the wax, if you can see clean paint and no smears where you wiped, it is ready. Use a good quality microfibre cloth, not too plush at this stage though. If the wax isn't coming off easily you have either applied too much or not left it long enough to cure. A spritz of Quick Detailer should help if you are having removal trouble.

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Once the excess has been removed give the finish a final buff with a clean plush microfibre cloth which will bring the lustre and depth to the paint.

Original Edition can be layered and two coats are highly recommended, leave 24 hours between coats to allow the first coat to fully cure.

To add a little extra bling to the finish, after buffing leave the wax to cure for a few hours, then give the paintwork a wipe down with a Quick Detailer, then give the car another final buff. This will add a little extra to the finish as well as removing any little missed bits of wax.

Finally stand back and admire the finish.

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Any other experienced OE users (I know there are a few of you out there :thumb: ) feel free to add your tips.

[Epoch]

Well reminded Ben it's about time i got this out again.

Time is the key success with RBOE, its takes a while to cure, but like a pint of Guiness the wait is worth it :)

[Dodo Factory]

RBOE is a cracking wax and completely unlike the developed world's offerings, in the nicest possible way. A bit like Willy and his wonky chocolate vs cadburys. With our Juiced Edition being a nice Green and Black's 70% cocoa ;)

Well worth dipping into :)

[Garfy]

Got both RBOE and juiced, but waiting for good weather to tame RBOE. Juiced is very easy to use and gives excellent results - cant wait to try the 'daddy' properly. Thanks Ben for all your help and patience.
Garth

[bilt-hamber kid]

I enjoyed that 'how to' Ben, cheers. It looks to be good gear.

Interesting that you suggest 'less is more' when applying. The snag with Balm is that people tend to put it on too thick because thats what they're used to. What method do you find works best for applying OE - foam pad or hand, or is it all down to simple preference?

[rubbishboy]

I enjoyed that 'how to' Ben, cheers. It looks to be good gear.

Interesting that you suggest 'less is more' when applying. The snag with Balm is that people tend to put it on too thick because thats what they're used to. What method do you find works best for applying OE - foam pad or hand, or is it all down to simple preference?

I find I can get it on a lot thinner by using a foam applicator, however the downside of a foam app is that you can't get so much heat into the wax, and the heat from your hands does makes it spread a lot nicer.

[mouthyman]

i have been looking at getting some of this, what is the difference between original edition and juiced?

[rubbishboy]

i have been looking at getting some of this, what is the difference between original edition and juiced?

Original is the exact recipe that I sent to Dodo Juice to evaluate after my experimenting in the home brew thread. The only tweaks to it are how it is heated and how it is cooled. As above made by me, in really small quantities, using accessible ingredients.

Juiced is Dodo Juice's version of it. Same carnauba and beeswax ratio, but the oil blend replaced with commercial ingredients and maufacturing processes. It's brightly coloured and has a very nice smell, and easier to apply.

They are very different waxes even though the basic wax content is the same.

[andycole]

When I used OE it was the first wax I had applied totally by hand, was an odd but cool experience and left my hands smelling fresh for hours.
AC:thumb:

[bilt-hamber kid]

I find I can get it on a lot thinner by using a foam applicator, however the downside of a foam app is that you can't get so much heat into the wax, and the heat from your hands does makes it spread a lot nicer.

Good point. An obvious opportunity for battery heated foam pads then. :thumb:

[Garfy]

Finally a warmer day and out with the OE. I'm learning to 'tame' the OE but it is taking patience - the results are definately worth it. Ben - you definately need to get heat into the wax to soften it before use! I used 'Juiced' a couple of weeks ago but after layering OE over it today the clarityt is better and a lot more sharp bling factor! I used to use Z concoure but got fed up with the silvery nuance I now prefer the OE. Many ideas to try to heat up the wax.

[rubbishboy]

Finally a warmer day and out with the OE. I'm learning to 'tame' the OE but it is taking patience - the results are definately worth it. Ben - you definately need to get heat into the wax to soften it before use! I used 'Juiced' a couple of weeks ago but after layering OE over it today the clarityt is better and a lot more sharp bling factor! I used to use Z concoure but got fed up with the silvery nuance I now prefer the OE. Many ideas to try to heat up the wax.

Well done Garth, knew you would get there. :thumb: Got any piccies yet?

As far as getting heat into it, I find heat from hands or friction from microfibre enough usually, just scrape a little bit of wax from the jar and work it with your chosen implement until softened.

A lot of the look of this wax comes from the coconut oil in it, but this "oil" is actually solid at room temperature, but as soon as you touch the oil with your hands it melts. So all your looking to do is get the coconut oil in the wax flowing, once you've done this it will actually allow the wax to spread out a long way, a little bit does go a long way.

[N8KOW]

I've bought JE do you still recommend OE? Thanks Nath

[rubbishboy]

I've bought JE do you still recommend OE? Thanks Nath

They are very different waxes Nath, even though the basic wax content is the same. Texture, smell and the final look is all different. So if you have tried JE and fancy trying OE I can assure you they aren't the same.

[jasonbarnes]

after looking at this thread and looking into the rubbishs boys original edition and juiced set i think im finally going to invest in some :thumb:

[karl_liverpool]

after looking at this thread and looking into the rubbishs boys original edition and juiced set i think im finally going to invest in some :thumb:
im thinking the same
i will inadvertantly leave the window open when my wife asks for the pc maybe she will take the hint. its my birthday soon so she might just click on