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Old 25-06-2018, 09:10 AM   #1
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Clay and Fusso question

Hi everybody,
First I'd like to say that I am complete noob in detailing but I would like to try and do something myself. My car is Mercedes C class, 8 years old,
obsidian black, that never had any detailing. The paint still looks pretty nice (couple of minor swirls from washing), but recently I found that the surface was very gritty to the touch.
So I decided to do something about it, and I did some research and finally ordered BH Medium Clay. Also I found out in my research that it would be nice
to put some sealent after claying so I also ordered Fusso soft99 Dark. So my question is can I just wash my car, clay the car, wash again, and put
fusso, or do I need to put something under Fusso, or clean the surface with something before Fusso. All work would be done by hand.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Old 25-06-2018, 09:23 AM   #2
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I would wash the car, then clay, then wash and dry and then use a panel wipe to ensure that the paint is clean and the wax/sealant will bond better.

In an ideal situation I would prepare the paint fully which includes more steps, the following guides should give you an example: http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acata...ing-paint.html
and detailing a new car but a lot of the steps are still applicable for a used car:
http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/blog/...brand-new-car/
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Old 25-06-2018, 09:43 AM   #3
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Thanks man, so I need to order some panel wipe.
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Old 25-06-2018, 01:01 PM   #4
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I'd be tempted as a strict amature to use a filler polish by hand, like Autoglym SRP or Bilt Hamber Cleanser polish ( I use the BH one) before applying the wax, they cover minor swirls and imperfections with out the scary process of using a polishing machine to correct.
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Old 25-06-2018, 01:27 PM   #5
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I'd be tempted as a strict amature to use a filler polish by hand, like Autoglym SRP or Bilt Hamber Cleanser polish ( I use the BH one) before applying the wax, they cover minor swirls and imperfections with out the scary process of using a polishing machine to correct.
This is good advice for most waxes but Fusso coat can be a bit fussy over an AIO type of product so best to apply on a bare surface. Although nothing stopping you but will definitely reduce its durability.


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Old 25-06-2018, 02:35 PM   #6
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you are most likely going to get marring from the claybar, especially since you have not included any chemical decontamination in your steps? Therefore especially on black if you have marring you will need to polish the paintwork and wipe it down with IPA before using fusso. I am not sure if hand polishing will remove marring left from the claying however
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Old 25-06-2018, 02:37 PM   #7
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Hand polishing should be able to remove light marring. works even on some swirlmarks. depending how deep they are.
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Old 27-06-2018, 02:35 AM   #8
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Thanks everybody, I will first try to clay some smaller parts to see if any marring appear.
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Old 27-06-2018, 03:30 AM   #9
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Welcome to the forum, and excellent choice of LSP ^。^

You have a reasonable plan, although as others have suggested, a panel wipe before Fusso is best. To reduce (though not eliminate) marring from the clay, you could use a chemical iron remover (Soft99 has Iron Terminator) on the paint first to dissolve most of the worst contamination.

So are you Japanese? I work at Soft99 HQ in Japan - I noticed your name is Middle-Road!
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No, I am from Europe- BiH, that's a name of the brand, I had no idea what it means .
I thought that it would be possible to slowly and carefully use clay with no marring, but based on the comments above that is not possible, so what do you think about using Fusso without claying? Maybe just good wash and panel wipe ?
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