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Old 23-05-2018, 03:35 PM   #21
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BH say 4% no reason to deviate

Spot on that's what I use in a 2,500ml spray bottle and it is better than any foam lance version I have tried yet!
I did find that VP Ph Neutral foam was best in the lance and poor in the spray bottle however.
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Old 23-05-2018, 03:41 PM   #22
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For the moment BH Surfex HD.

I've not tried BH Auto Foam yet, but will most likely give it a go when I run out of Surfex HD. Seen reports of Auto Foam outperforming Surfex as a pre wash via pump sprayer.
My understanding after reading comments from BH themselves in the past, is that Surfex and AutoFoam are similar products, but Surfex is intended to be a general de-greaser, wheras AutoFoam is a foamy product that is tweaked for removing general dirt that you find on cars.

I have used them both for many years and they are both epic as pre-sprays, but i think AutoFoam definately has a slight edge in terms of just making the dirt slide off without any touching.

They actually mix together very well, if you want to create a mega-pre-spray for quick cleaning daily drivers .... removes all the crud like nothing else if you use AutoFoam with a splash of added Surfex.

Other than that, to answer the origonal thread question, my order of pump-sprayer greatness is:

1) Autofoam

2) Powermax TFR joint second with Surfex

3) PowerMax Snow Foam via pump sprayer ( it seems to be just a foamy version of their TFR and i have 5L to use up ... )

4) Any household APC .... and my favourite for all car jobs is Stardrops Classic - a truly epic cleaning product that wont stain trim and plastics.
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Old 25-05-2018, 10:25 PM   #23
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BH auto-foam (80m) and BH Surfex (20ml) in a Wilko's 2l pump sprayer with warm water is a winning combo! If your car is only lightly dirty you can skip the Surfex and it still works great. Doing things this way is also ridiculously economical.
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Old 26-05-2018, 08:30 AM   #24
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I just use ordinary Wash and Wax solution at about 1:15 in warm water

Leave it for 10 mins then wash by hand. Seems to lubricate nicely.
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Old 26-05-2018, 08:37 AM   #25
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I just use ordinary Wash and Wax solution at about 1:15 in warm water

Leave it for 10 mins then wash by hand. Seems to lubricate nicely.
Are you saying you don't rinse the solution off before washing?

The whole point of a pre wash (whether that be applied by sprayer or foam lance) is to remove as much dirt as possible before touching the paint (i.e. to avoid rubbing the dirt into the paint when you wash with a mitt)


So, apply pre wash, rinse (or pressure wash), then wash with mitt.
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Old 26-05-2018, 10:11 AM   #26
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Rinse down with hose on stream mode. It's no power wash but I couldn't be bothered with the faffing about

Spray with the concentrated wash and wax (Simoniz)... this is going to sound weird but the mix is slippery/silky.

Leave to dwell... wash with mitt and bucket of properly diluted wash and wax.

My take on a waterless wash if you like.... with the spray mix encapsulating the dirt.

Like I said, adds a nice lubricity. Far from perfect I know, but I'm sceptical of those pre-washes and effect on lsp's... whatever their claims. What is it that Mike Phillips says ? If you ain't adding anything you must be taking it away (something like that)

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personally I would spray the mix onto the car to soften and loosen and dirt, then rinse then wash.
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Old 26-05-2018, 02:13 PM   #28
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Autosmart Hazsafe and some Gtechniq W5 added in the winter for extra bite.

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Old 26-05-2018, 03:10 PM   #29
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I tried the BHAF in a pump sprayer yesterday when it was slightly raining & by the time I’d done one side of the car the other had dried on,,I mixed it 200ml af to 5 litres of water.

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Exactly what Forsh said, I use 80ml of BH Auto foam and top up to 2 litre with hot water, spray on the car and jet wash off...job done.

Using a garden pump sprayer btw!
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