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Old 07-12-2017, 01:26 PM   #21
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I've only ever used Auto Foam and PM TFR through a pump sprayer, so haven't had chance to look, but do other snowfoams specify a concentration that they should be applied to paintwork at, or do they just say "stick some in your snowfoam lance"?

If the latter, I can't help but feel that one of the reasons people have such differing experiences with this type of product will be that due to variations in equipment and amount used, the concentration of product will vary enormously.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:30 PM   #22
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The only other Foam I've used that comes close to the cleaning capabilities of BHAF is KKD Blizzard. Worth a try to give you a change but like me you'll probably end up going back to Auto Foam for its excellent cleaning.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:42 PM   #23
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What is the ideal dilution ratio for BH Auto Foam? I'm coming to the end of a 5ltr bottle and only found it 'okay'.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:43 PM   #24
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BH Auto foam has been awesome for me - especially after reading how to properly calculate dilutions rates on here a few weeks back.
But - I also really like ODK Arctic and Blizzard from Obsession Wax, both good and tend to use in the summer.
But for out and out cleaning power - Auto Foam is hard to beat.
I also use PW TFR as pre wash in Winter too
Can you remember which thread about the dilution rates? I've been using auto foam through a Lance but might try it through a pump sprayer with what's left

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Old 07-12-2017, 01:43 PM   #25
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What is the ideal dilution ratio for BH Auto Foam? I'm coming to the end of a 5ltr bottle and only found it 'okay'.
I use 80ml Auto foam and 2L warm water in my pump sprayer. Works fine for me and is LSP safe at 4%
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I've only ever used Auto Foam and PM TFR through a pump sprayer, so haven't had chance to look, but do other snowfoams specify a concentration that they should be applied to paintwork at, or do they just say "stick some in your snowfoam lance"?

If the latter, I can't help but feel that one of the reasons people have such differing experiences with this type of product will be that due to variations in equipment and amount used, the concentration of product will vary enormously.
I have come to this conclusion because so many quote a certain foam is "rubbish" or did not work for them where as someone else loves the same. A prime example is Avalanche, I find it works very well, I have got just the right mix that is runny, dwells on the car for a while and of course has some cleaning ability when used with my PW. I do think it depends on how protected and dirty you car is to start with.

I think I have reached the point of not defending foams because it is a losing battle unless one is explored in great detail and it can then become the bees knees.

In answer to your concentration question, I think most just quote something like "use an inch", only Maxolen quote a percentage that I have seen.

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This is what AF say on their site. I can say I use significantly less than an inch in about 450ml of water, in fact it is a very low percentage when worked out but I believe if all users of any foam spent a bit of time working with it rather than just saying it is rubbish ( as we have seen with a certain product) then they would get on with most foams a lot better. Some are better than others and some sometimes a compromise is needed to meet the users requirements.

Now, we’ll be honest here, we can’t really tell you the exact dilution you’ll need. This will depend on a number of factors including what lance you’re using and at what rate water passes through your hose. Not only that, the snow foam is actually diluted twice over, before even hitting the car. Once by you, and second by the foam lance, and as we all know we don’t all use the same lance. However, with a bit of practice from you, you can find YOUR formula. We advise starting with less (around 1-2 inches of solution added to the lance bottle), and adding more until you get the correct dilution for your set-up. If you start with a little and add to it, you’ll ensure you’re not using too much solution. Too much solution won’t necessarily hurt the car, but it may unnecessarily hurt your pocket.

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Can you remember which thread about the dilution rates? I've been using auto foam through a Lance but might try it through a pump sprayer with what's left
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What is the ideal dilution ratio for BH Auto Foam? I'm coming to the end of a 5ltr bottle and only found it 'okay'.
This thread has everything you need to know

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tbh Brian I never let my car get proper minging so that could hinder my comparison I guess, I have used blizzard extreme a couple of winters back when I needed more bite but I've now opted for PM TFR as a first step then follow by blizzard to loosen and left over dirt, personally the amount of product needed from auto foam was kinda what put me off and the whole messing about working out the correct dilution for my water flow too, each to their own I guess and I respect your view and your thorough review of BH AF but horses for courses
How did you find Blizzard Extreme Lewis? Looking forward to trying it out myself
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How did you find Blizzard Extreme Lewis? Looking forward to trying it out myself
was very good for this time of the year Brian it that extra 'bite' really helped shift the crap we get at this time of the year and was enough just on it's own to give a good pre wash, I was tempted to buy another bottle in the BF sales but I've got enough PM TFR and normal blizzard to use up first
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