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Old 13-07-2017, 05:43 PM   #11
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being a bus driver myself I can honestly say that is a shocking bit of driving and as a professional driver he should have been able to deal with the clio being parked there without the need to drive in such a manner leading to him ending up like that

I would think at the very least the driver will be paying a visit to the managers office to explain his actions and may even be sent back to the training school for an assessment or corrective training or he may even be dismissed

It's also not exactly cheap to have to send a recovery firm to get the bus unstuck from that island plus the company I'm sure will have to pay for the damage cause which will not go down well with company
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Old 13-07-2017, 05:54 PM   #12
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The offence is 'causing an obstruction', you don't need lines on the road to be classed as causing one.

Trouble is it's an interpretation of the officer as to whether it's an obstruction or not.
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If someone wearing a uniform, and driving a works vehicle called me a "****ing ****", or accused me of parking on a "****ing bus route" I'd be getting the uncouth yob the sack.
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Old 13-07-2017, 07:17 PM   #14
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I'd imagine this will lead to a discussion between the school, the residents and the bus company, and may well lead to them finding an alternative waiting point. As above though, I'd be fuming at that kind of language being hurled at me, and having words with the company who employ him. I'd suggest your neighbour does the same (if he hasn't already). I hope somebody was there to back him up, because however poor his parking may or may not have been, it's still the bus driver who's beached his bus, and it's still his fault it's ended up there.
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Old 13-07-2017, 07:30 PM   #15
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The bus driver must be at fault as he's deliberately driven over the island.

The road is basically to small for buses to be doing those kind of turns.

Surely, if it was a designated island for them to go around, it would be marked up like a roundabout and dble yellow lines on the road adjacent to it.
This is something residents have tried taking up that the road is small by comparison to a double decker bus that is.

The island is not a roundabout, never has been it's just a way of diverting the traffic left and right where the two roads join. It just so happens the busses use it as a roundabout when it's tight without someone parking there.

The trouble is that for every other kind of vehicle, parking along that stretch of road causes no obstruction. Even the junction itself is one road that splits in two so literally no other vehicles turns the way the busses do. Cars will go left from where the bus turned right. The busses have to take up both sides of the road to get around it.

As with many residential areas, people have parked this way for years without issue. Same as narrow roads where parking on pavements is ignored.

It's hard to gauge from the pictures but even with cars parked along that stretch cars can still pass each other in the main part.

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I'd imagine this will lead to a discussion between the school, the residents and the bus company, and may well lead to them finding an alternative waiting point. As above though, I'd be fuming at that kind of language being hurled at me, and having words with the company who employ him. I'd suggest your neighbour does the same (if he hasn't already). I hope somebody was there to back him up, because however poor his parking may or may not have been, it's still the bus driver who's beached his bus, and it's still his fault it's ended up there.
100% agree mate, sadly I wasn't there but if I had been i would have done. My partner was getting ready for a nightshift so wasn't in a position to go outside.

Felt bad for the poor guy, literally just moved in yesterday and already got grief. I went round to say hi and have a chat about that at the same time.

He's a fellow Merc owner which is nice
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Old 13-07-2017, 09:04 PM   #16
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Not a Bus Route... Bus Driver at Fault... Driving without Due Care and Attention. If you can't get past an object that is parked legally you can't just drive over a bloody island! Bus driver is a knob.
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Not a Bus Route... Bus Driver at Fault... Driving without Due Care and Attention. If you can't get past an object that is parked legally you can't just drive over a bloody island! Bus driver is a knob.


Nicely and succinctly put. You are correct on all your points.

To add most bus operators operate polices that buses are not permitted to reverse without banksmen present to escort them due to increased risk of running someone or something over.

This does result in situations where buses will sit and wait for an official banksman to arrive to rescue them when they get stuck. I've seen this occur several times!
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Old 13-07-2017, 10:26 PM   #18
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The highway code does say you are not supposed to park within 10m of a junction so looking at your pictures there should be no cars parked where the clio is

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Quite correct, but its not the Law, just an advisory Highway Code rule. It could be considered in Court as part of a bigger picture, but you cannot be prosecuted for that alone.

In this situation, its the fault of the bus driver in not taking sufficient account of the size of his vehicle when attempting to negotiate a junction / bend. So its driving without due care and attention.

If he had realised, he could have asked the Police for help with the cars, but they would have only rung doorbells and asked " Would you please assist by moving your car ?"
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To add most bus operators operate polices that buses are not permitted to reverse without banksmen present to escort them due to increased risk of running someone or something over.
I have heard this before as well. Also there was something about the legality of reversing but it only applied to if they had passengers on board. Not sure how true that is and the busses arrive empty anyway.

Also, when there has been a vehicle parked there I have witnessed busses reversing so policy or not, some of their drivers do it. I have actually been on one of their busses at a point where another came through a narrow point. Bus driver whacked it in reverse and backed up like she was driving a car. :roll eyes:

Just for clarity, here's a top down view of the road.



As you can see, it's actually quite a large junction which would be a t-junction that due to a curve in the road they must have added the island.

This shows that even with a row of cars parked along where the Clio is, it doesn't hinder the way the junction is designed. If anything, no one turns right out of the top part of the junction as anyone that is turning comes down to the lower part. If that makes sense.
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Old 14-07-2017, 12:15 PM   #20
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I could have got round there with a lot bigger than that bus if it did not bottom out with the slope that is plenty of space to take that bus round both ways or a little manoeuvre with a small reverse would have done it no need for going on the island at all
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