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Old 14-11-2017, 05:22 AM   #31
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My photos of my alloys as discussed earlier.

The first photo shows what they normally look like after washing

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They are not as bad but certainly not perfect
What do they look like *before* washing?
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Old 14-11-2017, 09:50 AM   #32
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I clean one wheel at a time and spray it on but although the rust is reduced it’s not perfect.
Let me know your wash routine used on this car please stage by stage.

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Old 14-11-2017, 10:47 AM   #33
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Bilt Hamber....If you rinse off your wheels first to remove much of the dirt (the rusting process begins here immediately so to speak ) , then continue to wash the wheel thoroughly say this takes you 7 mins then the rust has already taken from the initial rinse.....you say to spray after washing each wheel........and this will arrest the process but the rusting process has already started at the initial rinse.....Your thoughts and advice on this would be greatly appreciated as i have purchased 2 bottles!...
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Old 14-11-2017, 01:07 PM   #34
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Bilt Hamber....If you rinse off your wheels first to remove much of the dirt (the rusting process begins here immediately so to speak ) , then continue to wash the wheel thoroughly say this takes you 7 mins then the rust has already taken from the initial rinse.....you say to spray after washing each wheel........and this will arrest the process but the rusting process has already started at the initial rinse.....Your thoughts and advice on this would be greatly appreciated as i have purchased 2 bottles!...
This is key! If you've foamed the car and cleaning product's hit the disc then the corrosion will be forming as you work - so do try to avoid this.

If foaming / PW the wheel areas I begin on arches, suspension, avoiding the wheel, then as last job in each arch is the wheel itself , then rinse the whole area quickly and efficiently at that point apply AM.

The disc should be much cleaner now and held there. You can initially walk round the car if you have a pump sprayer and pre-treat the discs on particularly active ones, then carry on with routine as above.

Remember too that AM is getting into crevices mechanisms etc where corrosion is occurring too after road salt or washing routine. The sooner it's applied the sooner it neutralizes the problem. However it NOT a rust remover.

The product will lightly foam as applied and and then should be left to dry during which adsorption will occur. Do not remove it or re-wet the surface while drying occurring.
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Let me know your wash routine used on this car please stage by stage.



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I always clean the alloys first.
Spray 1 wheel at a time with the PW
clean with shampoo and water and various brushes
PW down
Move on to the next wheel

Pre wash car with Green Star
Then rinse

Wash car then rinse with DI vessel
Dry using MF towel
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I always clean the alloys first.
Spray 1 wheel at a time with the PW
clean with shampoo and water and various brushes
PW down
Move on to the next wheel

Pre wash car with Green Star
Then rinse

Wash car then rinse with DI vessel
Dry using MF towel
Corrosion will begin at first hit with PW and during the time with shampoo and brushes it will have developed. Add a mist of AM direct to the discs after the first wetting with PW. Upon final PW rinse of shampoo from the wheel give them a good soak and leave. Make sure the entire disc has the characteristic light froth from the product.

Keep any pre-wash chemical and PW water off of the wheels when doing rest of car to ensure the AM is adsorbed and dried in the steel surface.

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Corrosion will begin at first hit with PW and during the time with shampoo and brushes it will have developed. Add a mist of AM direct to the discs after the first wetting with PW. Upon final PW rinse of shampoo from the wheel give them a good soak and leave. Make sure the entire disc has the characteristic light froth from the product.



Keep any pre-wash chemical and PW water off of the wheels when doing rest of car to ensure the AM is adsorbed and dried in the steel surface.



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Ok I will give that a go although it states in instructions to spray AFTER cleaning, but I will try it this way.
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Ok I will give that a go although it states in instructions to spray AFTER cleaning, but I will try it this way.
You're quite right - just looking to improve and looking for sweet spot if the discs are very "active" Thanks for your help - appreciated
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Well, I applied straight after rinsing, a little better, but still not good enough
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Well, I applied straight after rinsing, a little better, but still not good enough
It would appear that this corrosion then is on there before application of the AM and is occurring rapidly from an earlier stage. The fact that its better means this method caught it earlier but not quick enough. I would like to see a wheel after this stage without AM please? Then a further one right at the end of the vehicles wash regime.

Are those water drops on the alloys from rinse water, that was used just before AM and may I ask how are you applying the AM - pump sprayer or trigger?
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