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Old 02-08-2012, 10:57 AM   #21
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Flex will be on the autobrite stand so if your wanting a flex get over, I'm hearing it should be a good day for any new flex owners
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:35 PM   #22
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Still waiting on a price for a supplier, but what he has said so far, it looks very promising for you lot going to waxstock ;-)
My Waxstock advanced ticket arrived this morning
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:46 PM   #23
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Well I've just become a Flexonian - buying my Flex from Simon @ Wax Attack on a great deal (thanks Simon!) I got the case too - it's mahoosive!!

I attended the KDS detailing day up at shiny towers in June and that convinced me that a change was due!

I can't comment on the Rupes but I had narrowed my choice down to Flex or Festool and I felt that the Flex would be a keeper as it feels right in the hand and is a touch quieter than the Festool. (This means that my Makita is now going but that too is a great machine - just a bit too heavy in comparision esp for my puny arms!!)

I'm just a hobbyist so it isn't going to get a battering but I always like to buy the best I can afford and the number of recommendations for the Flex and also having a go convinced me.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:13 PM   #24
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Well I've just become a Flexonian - buying my Flex from Simon @ Wax Attack on a great deal (thanks Simon!) I got the case too - it's mahoosive!!
No problem Adrian, many thanks for your order.

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Old 07-08-2012, 07:01 PM   #25
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I think that some machines are pushed out there by detailers with a slight backing from the suppliers or machine company .

My choice is totally on the machine performance , and got nothing to do with who supplied it or who makes it.

to date its flex all the way , never spoke to anyone from flex just buy a machine due to its spec.

The reason why the machine works , its in its gearing and reduction gearbox .

This means the spindle speed is half the motor speed , so cooling is better as the cooling fan is running twice as fast than direct drive machines , the machine starts a lot slower then most , and due to gearbox reduction you get much higher torque , so the machine wont bog down when heavy cutting at low speed .

This also slightly helps towards its smoothness as motors running at higher speed will always run smoother.

one side effect is it will use brushes faster than direct drive machines, but small price to pay.

I believe its one of the first machines totally design from the ground up to be a detailing machine polisher and not a development of a grinder

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Kelly I think you will agree that any machine can perform excellent on the proper hand.

I think there are some quality differences when it comes down to
the built quality, but these are due to the different audience both companies aim for. Rupes aims for the bodyshop professional and his needs. Cheap and reliable.

On the other hand Flex is a very sophisticated and quality built tool, which is aimed for the few professionals that need the best result no matter the time or the cost.

So you can't really compare the tools. they cost different and there are built for a different purpose.

Can you achieve the best result with any of these tools. I think yes because its the operator ability that matters and not the tool.
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I can't comment on the Rupes, but the Flex rotary is an awesome machine, has to be the best I have ever used. 3 years on, and still performing like it did on day one. It is quiet, light, doesn't bog down, nice control with the varistart trigger. When it come to replace the P14, it will be another P14, although the Fien tools do look good..

Festool are also very good, but come from a woodworking background, so not sure they are properly set up for paint polishing/correcting, compared to the Flex. My only con to the Flex is where the speed control is located, or at least a click wheel, so you can feel where you are. Although not too big a problem, as I tend to use sound for my speeds..
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I can't comment on the Rupes, but the Flex rotary is an awesome machine, has to be the best I have ever used. 3 years on, and still performing like it did on day one. It is quiet, light, doesn't bog down, nice control with the varistart trigger. When it come to replace the P14, it will be another P14, although the Fien tools do look good..

Festool are also very good, but come from a woodworking background, so not sure they are properly set up for paint polishing/correcting, compared to the Flex. My only con to the Flex is where the speed control is located, or at least a click wheel, so you can feel where you are. Although not too big a problem, as I tend to use sound for my speeds..
Can you please tell me how to upload a video to demonstrate what Festool 16,000opm pneumatic sanders for the auto industry can do . No other mainstream company besides rupes makes as many products for auto refinishing as festool does . Also , the best sanding disks in the world for the industry are festool's granat . Since the release of granat my beloved mirka autonet and norton ceramic are a thing of the past . Plus , flex makes her money in construction sites not spray booths . Though that actually says a lot about how reliable they are . Like festool that has to endure the brutality of high volume wood shops .
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My Festool (a replacement for the 1st one, which lasted nearly 2 years) has just gone back to them after lasting 8 months. Seriously considering punting it and my new G220 for a pair of Flex machines...
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I recently bought a Flex and I am so glad with the extra outlay compared to other rotaries I have used in the past - however, I heard that the Rupes system is very very good.
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I'm so glad i purchased the Flex after reading this review. Big thanks to Wax attack for the 1st class service.
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