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Old 20-07-2018, 05:22 PM   #1
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Absolute basics to get a mirror finish, white vehicles

Read through the stickies but just can't find a basic set up to get a mirror finish on a white vehicle???

I'm not a professional, just my own vehicles I want to detail.

So things I have bought recently:

Auto smart scratch guard buckets x 2
Meguires microfibre wash mitt
DAS-6 V2
Meguiars #105 and #205
Chemical guys orange and white
Autoglym tar remover, magma, claybar, detailing spray.

I have gone through all the processes:

Rinse
Prewash
Rinse
Two bucket wash
Rinse
Tar remover
Rinse
Magma
Rinse
Claybar
Dry
Machine polish with #105 and orange, wipe down then #205 and white.

The car is smooth to touch but not like glass and although I can see myself in it, it's not like my older white car that was litterally like a mirror and all I used on that was super resign polish.

Car is a 63 reg Vauxhall Astra

Am I missing a step here? I drove down the road and it now feels like I've done nothing to it!
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Old 21-07-2018, 03:31 PM   #2
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After machine polishing you’d be best to add some sort of protection from a wax or sealant.

The only white car I’ve done was a brand new Clio which I did most of the above, with any correction, then srp which you mention followed by a coat of Meguiars synthetic sealant and then a coat of bilt Hamber double speed wax.

All that actually visibly changed the white a and gave it a deeper pearl like shine, which pleased the owner.
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Old 22-07-2018, 12:39 PM   #3
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It could be a polishing issue but comparing one paint to another can be tricky. Even with the same car different paints could be used which will therefore have an impact on the perceived gloss.
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Old 22-07-2018, 01:38 PM   #4
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Whites a bugger! I have 2 white Fords and they come up differently. A good wax can add a bit of depth and shine but to some extent it's managing your expectations. I'm not saying you won't get a shine with white as you can however there's no - do this and it'll be cracking, solution. I have a blue and a red car also and with a fraction of the work they look twice as good as the white.
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Old 22-07-2018, 02:49 PM   #5
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I hesitate to suggest it but a wet sand might be the only way to really improve reflectivity.

I imagine that any unevenness in the paint surface will cause light to bounce about in several different directions and make the paint appear hazy. It certainly does with gloss black paint.

So, it might be a question of (a) taking some brave pills and applying some wet'n'dry or (b) just trying to optimise your current routine or (c) taking your car to a professional detailer and asking for an honest assessment of what can be done.

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Old 22-07-2018, 03:54 PM   #6
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I haven’t added a wax or sealer which may be the answer any suggestions for a white car??

I was thinking of getting a black finishing pad and using menzerna 400 to take it to the third step but am open to suggestions

Was thinking of colinite 845, no sealer just yet, as it’s all starting to get expensive also any suggestions on a panel wipe??

My last white car was an escort RS turbo, I only used SRP and extra protection but on a sunny day you couldn’t look at it for long it was that bright! (Wish I kept that car)

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Old 22-07-2018, 06:20 PM   #7
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For a white car you want to add a sealant over a wax if you’re trying to achieve a mirror finish. The sealant will help bounce the light off the paintwork. Auto finesse tough coat for sheer ease of use and is also going cheap at the minute or why not try some Fusso coat if you can get your hands on it!


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Old 22-07-2018, 06:30 PM   #8
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For a white car you want to add a sealant over a wax if you’re trying to achieve a mirror finish. The sealant will help bounce the light off the paintwork. Auto finesse tough coat for sheer ease of use and is also going cheap at the minute or why not try some Fusso coat if you can get your hands on it!


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Generally a wax should go over a sealant.
Most sealants need a bare panel to bond too. Not sure if adding a sealant over a wax would be beneficial to improve the finish?

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Old 22-07-2018, 06:32 PM   #9
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Absolute basics to get a mirror finish, white vehicles

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Generally a wax should go over a sealant.
Most sealants need a bare panel to bond too. Not sure if adding a sealant over a wax would be beneficial to improve the finish?

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You’ve misread what I meant. I meant if you had a choice between the 2 then go for a sealant. Not literally put a sealant on top of a wax.


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Old 22-07-2018, 06:42 PM   #10
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You’ve misread what I meant. I meant if you had a choice between the 2 then go for a sealant. Not literally put a sealant on top of a wax.


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Fair play. Thought you meant put sealant over a wax
Sealants are good for reflectivity. Autoglym egp or Menzerna powerlock are both good for this.

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