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Old 03-09-2018, 11:09 PM   #11
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2002 Citroen Xsara VTS - another old French bird!!

Amazing find that is Ben! I was kinda hoping one line in that you’d go for a 309 but the Xsara is something different and despite the age, rarer!

Always amazed with these that they look so harmless, yet with 170bhp at your disposal it’ll surprise a few.

Might have to pop over for a tea & a biscuit at some point (since you said that you’ve got plenty of biscuit bait in stock for Danny)


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Old 03-09-2018, 11:16 PM   #12
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Amazing find that is Ben! I was kinda hoping one line in that you’d go for a 309 but the Xsara is something different and despite the age, rarer!

Always amazed with these that they look so harmless, yet with 170bhp at your disposal it’ll surprise a few.

Might have to pop over for a tea & a biscuit at some point (since you said that you’ve got plenty of biscuit bait in stock for Danny)


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I'd been considered a Goodwood for a long time e but they are just out of my reach budgetary wise......

Yeah, this one looks to be a cracker. A bloody good clean and we will see what we have.....
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Look forward to this one Ben


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Ben,

Absolute little stunner! The car, not you (although you are a nice chap).

Really looking forward to this thread. That wee car is definitely worth some attention.

Re the cider slip-up, it reminded me of a song by one of my Dad's favourite country singers, Tom T Hall.

https://youtu.be/AOiyksNlrY0

Eeeeevrybody.... I like beer.....

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Looks in similar condition to my VTS Saxo when I bought!
Cars like these that have been untouched are a great basis for a tidy up/ resto!
Great purchase!
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Excellent. Always liked these and their "under the radar" looks. If I recall correctly they got a 5 speed box whereas the same engine in the GTI-6 was mated to a six speed box. Did that change with the facelift?
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Excellent. Always liked these and their "under the radar" looks. If I recall correctly they got a 5 speed box whereas the same engine in the GTI-6 was mated to a six speed box. Did that change with the facelift?
Correct on the box. No, it didn't change with the facelift.
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Now subscribed........again looking forward to another great thread Ben
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Looks awesome always had a soft spot for 90s French hot hatches. Particularly when they are not that common!
Good find there sir!

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So, the great parts hunt has begun .....

Well, not so great really as it doesn't need much. What it does need is the exhaust system replacing.

The seller was telling me about the me bits it had had. Told me it had a new exhaust and a new cat. I asked if the cat was replaced when it failed the MOT on emmissions? He looked me in the eye with a wry smile and said:

'You've done your homework, haven't you'? He knew at this point I think that I was deadly serious about buying and that I knew my stuff and a lot about the car.

So, the exhaust. It has an aftermarket cat on it (£120.....not sure how great that's going to be but it passed the emmissions test..) and clearly a pattern centre section and back box. It's got an odd raspy rattle, along with an odd deeper noise. The exhaust also sits well off centre of the bumper cut out, and about 3-4" too back back into the bumper. Its the only bit that looks rubbish and that i can't live with.

Now, given the engine is an XU10J4RS, I figured it would be the same cat as the 306.....so I could use my Rallye one. On the Ph1 cars, it was.....Ph2 was different. Different end on the manifold and cat, meaning different fittings. Bugger.

So the magic lamp that is Facebook messenger was rubbed and the parts genie appeared.......! VIN number handed over....and waited.

The centre section is still available from dealers but we suspect it's a special order part. £177. Hmmmmmm. Back box the news wasn't so good initially. NLA. Never three letters I want to see but, the genie being what he is, may have located one in Belgium at a dealers he's done lots with. RRP is circa £200. Waiting on news now on that one.

The cat is laughable. Not sure on availability, but RRP, for a catalytic converter for this car is.....(I'd advise sitting down).....



















£2595. For a cat. WTF. I need to find a breaker.

Whilst investigating the centre section, I discovered there are a large number of centre sections for this engine/model combo. The really interesting part is they differ in length from 1390mm to 1500mm. That's a difference of up to 110mm, or just over 4" in old money. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that's why my exhaust sits as far back as it does. The centre section will be too short. Quite how you get a difference of 4" between original and pattern, I don't know.....

So, collection is planned for Friday morning (I have the day off, as does the wife). Hopefully get there for 11-11:30, do the deal and head home. It's 90 mile home so hoping to be home for 13:30. Then a detailed inspection can begin.

Properly excited at the mo! Howmanyleft.co.uk is a little confusing as to the results....



Not sure if the difference between the two is the difference in phase (Ph1 or 2) or engine size (Ireland markets had a 1.8 engined VTS) but clicking the engines tab for both results shows most are the 2.0 variety. More sleuthing required on that one but either way, there isn't a huge amount of them left!

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