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Old 18-08-2016, 03:57 PM   #21
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Dont be so bloody ridiculous.....a police or army dog will tackle a human that its instructed to and release when its told and it wont go for areas like the throat.

You are being obtuse and argumentative on purpose.

Fact is any dog that is badly treated can be a killer be it a pitbull or a cocker spaniel...doesn't matter
think you need to find out more about our police dogs and how poorly they are trained, but getting back to the point where do you draw the line about what is acceptable and what is not. If its ok for a police dog the it has to be ok for security dogs, guard dogs and personal protection dogs, they all have a job to do.
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Old 18-08-2016, 04:03 PM   #22
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The problem is that dogs bred for fighting like the Pittbull or Mastiff, can do 10 times more damage than a Cocker.
The jaw pressure is excessive and the way the teeth are set does much more damage.
Pittbull are famous for their jaw lock.
One of my dogs (American Cocker) attacked a little friend of my girl's friend son (minor damage) and when I spoke to the vet, he advised me to put it straight down.
He told me "if he done it once, he will do it again.
Following his advise, he did it with tears in his eyes, as he was there to safe animal lives, not to end them.
But it was the best thing to do, in hindsight I am always glad I did, as you see many of the attacks you see in the news, the dog has attacked before.
again rubbish did you know the difference in bite pressure between a lab and an american pit bull is only 5 pounds, or the fact that a male labs jaw is stronger than a female APB. As already stated lacking jaw is not true.
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The mind boggles

A pitbull has the ability to hold its bite for an extremely long time whilst oblivious to any pain inflicted upon it in an effort to get it to release its bite. A million miles away from a Labrador

For that very reason they should not be allowed as pets, it's their potential to cause serious/fatal injuries regardless of whether they actually do.

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Old 18-08-2016, 04:06 PM   #24
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[QUOTE=possul;5183126]Staff-lab cross is the breed apparently.

if thats true that will keep some quite on here,.
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Old 18-08-2016, 04:16 PM   #25
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The mind boggles

A pitbull has the ability to hold its bite for an extremely long time whilst oblivious to any pain inflicted upon it in an effort to get it to release its bite. A million miles away from a Labrador

For that very reason they should not be allowed as pets, it's their potential to cause serious/fatal injuries regardless of whether they actually do.

A lab can bite for far more than enough time to cause fatal injuries. again all dogs of a curtain size which includes labs can take extreme pain and wont relise there bite. there is no difference between a APB and a lab. they both have the size and power to cause serious harm. If you think there is a million miles between a lab and a apb you are only fooling yourself

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Yes the country is awash with killer Labradors chomping their way through society. I don't let my kid near a golden retriever as they are savage beasts

I'm hoping the dog in the OP was destroyed regardless of whether it was a lab, pug or deranged werewolf. It has no place in society.
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For that very reason they should not be allowed as pets, it's their potential to cause serious/fatal injuries regardless of whether they actually do.
It starts and ends with the person in charge of the animal.
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Old 18-08-2016, 05:24 PM   #28
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The dog had already mauled 4 people previously.

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It maybe doesn't lock, as such, but have a read what the experts have to say.

bite style of bulldogs.
There are aspects of ring sport which put the bulldog at a disadvantage when competing against sheepdogs like shepherds and malinois. The sport requires the dog, at times, to bite and then quickly release and retreat - something no true bulldog is willing to do. Also, biting the leg, which is considered preferable, takes more training for a bulldog who will naturally shun the extremities in favor of the more "courageous" bites to the body. A bulldog is bred to grip the head of its prey - whereas a sheepdog nips the legs. Therefore sheepdog breeds have a natural advantage in this regard.
It is not uncommon to have to resort to lethal means in order to stop a pit bull from attacking. Each month, the media reports one incident after another of pit bulls attacking other dogs, horses, livestock and people and refusing to let go even after being, kicked, beaten, stabbed, tased, pepper sprayed and shot. In October 2009, a pit bull had to be given a lethal injection after it killed one small dog, injured another small dog and then hung on to the owner's hand for 20 minutes. In August 2010, shelter staff were forced to give a pit bull a lethal injection when they could not stop it from attacking another shelter dog. In Alton, IL a pit bull was shot when it attacked a police officer serving a warrant. Its jaws had to be pried off of the officer's foot AFTER it was killed. In 1891, a bulldog redirected on a little boy and it had to be killed to stop the attack and loosen the grip. In May 2012, police fired 2 rounds into a pit bull during an attack on another dog. The pit bull was not fazed, the police fired another dozen rounds killing it. In Malaysia, a bull terrier bolted from a house and attacked a jogger. A good samaritan driving by saw the attack and stopped to assist the 74 yr old man. He beat the pit bull with an umbrella until it broke and still the animal remained undeterred and kept its jaw locked on Yip's neck. And the dead game little female pictured below had to be pried off of her opponent, after she died.
bite style of bulldogs.
There are aspects of ring sport which put the bulldog at a disadvantage when competing against sheepdogs like shepherds and malinois. The sport requires the dog, at times, to bite and then quickly release and retreat - something no true bulldog is willing to do. Also, biting the leg, which is considered preferable, takes more training for a bulldog who will naturally shun the extremities in favor of the more "courageous" bites to the body. A bulldog is bred to grip the head of its prey - whereas a sheepdog nips the legs. Therefore sheepdog breeds have a natural advantage in this regard.
It is not uncommon to have to resort to lethal means in order to stop a pit bull from attacking. Each month, the media reports one incident after another of pit bulls attacking other dogs, horses, livestock and people and refusing to let go even after being, kicked, beaten, stabbed, tased, pepper sprayed and shot. In October 2009, a pit bull had to be given a lethal injection after it killed one small dog, injured another small dog and then hung on to the owner's hand for 20 minutes. In August 2010, shelter staff were forced to give a pit bull a lethal injection when they could not stop it from attacking another shelter dog. In Alton, IL a pit bull was shot when it attacked a police officer serving a warrant. Its jaws had to be pried off of the officer's foot AFTER it was killed. In 1891, a bulldog redirected on a little boy and it had to be killed to stop the attack and loosen the grip. In May 2012, police fired 2 rounds into a pit bull during an attack on another dog. The pit bull was not fazed, the police fired another dozen rounds killing it. In Malaysia, a bull terrier bolted from a house and attacked a jogger. A good samaritan driving by saw the attack and stopped to assist the 74 yr old man. He beat the pit bull with an umbrella until it broke and still the animal remained undeterred and kept its jaw locked on Yip's neck. And the dead game little female pictured below had to be pried off of her opponent, after she died.

Those of us who have first hand experience of their locking jaws know the truth. Anyone who follows pit bull attacks in the media and still believes their jaws do NOT lock is lying to themselves. Anyone who tells you that pit bulls are "just dogs" is either lying to you or is ignorant of the true nature of gripping dogs.

If pit bulls are just like every other dog, why do they come with these special handling instructions and tools designed exclusively for pit bulls and with warnings against their use on normal dogs?

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspo...king-jaws.html
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It has a strong jaw is what it should read.

If you play tug of war with any dog you'll find they have incredibly strong jaw.

Nice to see this thread has turned into a staff/ pit type bread bashing thread.

Any bread with terrier in its name has the instinct, a jack Russell will do exactly the same but that doesn't matter does it

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