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Old 13-05-2018, 09:27 AM   #1
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The mildest/safest polish for minor swirl correction

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I'm buying a DAP for the first time next week. I'm looking to do some very minor paint correction ie very light swirl marks. I'm pretty sure I want to correct rather than fill, unless somebody convinces me otherwise.


I'm absolutely crapping myself in case I damage the paint and so I really want the mildest and safest compound/polish.

The car is a non metallic white Porsche.

Could anybody recommend me suitable polish and pads that would be safe in a DAP noob's hands?

Thanks very much
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Old 13-05-2018, 11:35 AM   #2
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If you get a finishing pad and use a cleanser polish you can go at it for hours and make barely any difference to the thickness of the clear coat.

If you feel that uneasy then get a scrap panel to practice on.

Find an accomplished user of machine polishers and get some assistance.

You need technique. If you can't hold and use the machine properly then you will inflict damage whatever you use.
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Old 13-05-2018, 12:15 PM   #3
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Post where you are.

Ask to borrow a Paint Depth Gauge.

Maybe ask in region section as well as on this thread.

Take time.
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Old 13-05-2018, 01:16 PM   #4
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You could use something like CarPro Essense or the Glare system
These are semi perminamnt fillers and don't diminish the level of clear coat you have
(Altho Essense does have some micro abrasives in it)

If all your chasing is swirls then this could be a good solution for you
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If you get a finishing pad and use a cleanser polish you can go at it for hours and make barely any difference to the thickness of the clear coat.

If you feel that uneasy then get a scrap panel to practice on.

Find an accomplished user of machine polishers and get some assistance.

You need technique. If you can't hold and use the machine properly then you will inflict damage whatever you use.
Thanks.

Its going to be difficult to find an accomplished polisher who is free to come around when I am also free. So I'm not sure how this would work?

You mention using a cleanser polish, would this have any effect on light swirls?

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Old 13-05-2018, 02:10 PM   #6
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You could use something like CarPro Essense or the Glare system
These are semi perminamnt fillers and don't diminish the level of clear coat you have
(Altho Essense does have some micro abrasives in it)

If all your chasing is swirls then this could be a good solution for you

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Yes, its just very light swirls, I'm not trying to correct anything more than that. And even then I'm not chasing 100% perfection, just a decent improvement.

So given my lack of experience would I be better off using a good filler instead? I have some poor boys white hole, would this be as good as the car pro?

Thank you.
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Yes, its just very light swirls, I'm not trying to correct anything more than that. And even then I'm not chasing 100% perfection, just a decent improvement.

So given my lack of experience would I be better off using a good filler instead? I have some poor boys white hole, would this be as good as the car pro?

Thank you.
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A good start would be the essence on wither a finishing pad or a light polishing pad (CG Black/Blue or White) The finishing pad has no cut so minimalising the risk of damage
The light polishing pad as a small bit of cut to just help cleanse the paint and remove light imperfections etc

The essence will give you a better life of fill
Poorboys is a great glaze don't get me wrong but as it's more of a show glaze the filler will wash out quicker than the ones in Essense (wash technique dependant obviously)
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Hi mate
A good start would be the essence on wither a finishing pad or a light polishing pad (CG Black/Blue or White) The finishing pad has no cut so minimalising the risk of damage
The light polishing pad as a small bit of cut to just help cleanse the paint and remove light imperfections etc

The essence will give you a better life of fill
Poorboys is a great glaze don't get me wrong but as it's more of a show glaze the filler will wash out quicker than the ones in Essense (wash technique dependant obviously)

Great, that's exactly what I will do. A couple more questions please?

1) I have recently applied wax. Will the car pro remove this or do I need to apply a cleanser fluid?

2) I'm assuming I can still add a lsp?

Thanks very much
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Great, that's exactly what I will do. A couple more questions please?

1) I have recently applied wax. Will the car pro remove this or do I need to apply a cleanser fluid?

2) I'm assuming I can still add a lsp?

Thanks very much
Yeah the micro abrasives in the essence will remove the wax, but a white pad would also aid the removal of the wax
Or you could use something like Megs wash+ (I think it's called) which has abrasives in it
They should remove the worst of the wax before the essence does the rest

And you can still add aome LSP
Essence does add a layer of Si02 so layering a Si02 infused wax might be a cool idea
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Old 13-05-2018, 07:11 PM   #10
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The wife has a Citroen (soft paint I believe). First time out I went at it with a Orange Hex Logic and Menz 2200... was so focused on moving arms slowly, after 4 passes the panel was almost too hot to actually touch (imagine paint on the hottest of summer days) ... didn't appear to do any damage.

Probably removed more clear coat than I would have liked but it was a one time job so I won't be making it any worse now.

You can go way beyond where you think the line is.
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