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Old 12-04-2018, 09:10 PM   #1
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Longest lasting glazes?

What’s the longest lasting glazes out there? Is there ever an option to glaze under something like Gyeon Can Coat it some kind of 6 month coating/sealant.


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Old 13-04-2018, 01:10 PM   #2
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A glaze is something, by itself, that offers no lasting effect. It's filling/gloss may last for a week or so by itself but for any durability to occur, they need to be topped by a protective layer.

There are certain glazes that can work under sealants but all glazes ultimately will compromise the durability of the sealant or wax you are using.

Good old SRP leaves an acrylic base for a sealant to get a decent bond to, as does Bilt Hamber's Cleaner Polish. Prima Amigo is also a good base for sealants as is Black Hole.
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Old 13-04-2018, 02:02 PM   #3
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No glaze will last if it's introduced to water, the resins wash away too easily, you need to glaze THEN protect with a sealent, not a wax
Also try to stick to one manufacture, so if your using autoglym SRP like roscopervis mentioned, it's best to use autoglym extra gloss, you will get the benifit of the chemistry working together, rather than against

But in all honesty, a good paste sealent like fusso coat or fk1000 will make a big difference by filling in MINOR scratches with the sealent. It will still look great without all the hassle of an extra lap around your car applying your glaze

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You can use somthing like carpro essence which works like a glaze and then top it with cancoat. You will need to use essence via machine polisher.
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@atkinson91 - Why should a glaze be used with a sealant and not a wax? Most glazes are oil based so waxes suite better on top of them whereas most sealants hate oil based products and tend not to stick for very long. Sealants require bare paint for best adhesion and for best longevity unless you are using a glaze type product specifically designed to work under a sealant e.g. Britemax virtue topped with britemax EE 2.0
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I always top a glaze with a wax, results can be amazing. Great for summer as durability can be stretched.

AIO as Dodos Need For Speed could also give you the results you are after.


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@atkinson91 - Why should a glaze be used with a sealant and not a wax? Most glazes are oil based so waxes suite better on top of them whereas most sealants hate oil based products and tend not to stick for very long. Sealants require bare paint for best adhesion and for best longevity unless you are using a glaze type product specifically designed to work under a sealant e.g. Britemax virtue topped with britemax EE 2.0
I didn't mean for it to sound like you can't use a wax, or it's a bad idea too, because you certainly can! I just believe that with today's technology's, your better off using a sealent for the longevity above all, plus the fact it will be 'chemically compatible' if you stick within a brand, (I used AG as an example)

You used britemax as an example, with an si02 based 'glaze' with a sealent on top to lock it in, a sealents properties will outlast any organic wax and can look just as good

Hope this clarifies things

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Old 13-04-2018, 03:35 PM   #8
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Bilt Hamber Cleanser Polish, topped with Finis or Double Speed-Wax, is a really nice combo of ease of use, efficiency of filling effect, durability, water behaviour and value for money.
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So I could put on 3 odd layers of SRP and then use EGP and get some good durability out of the effort i put in?


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Ag Supernova , wow




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