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Old 14-10-2017, 10:44 AM   #31
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Strange, I've tested both the contact 121 and the butter wax recently and below is the beading I get (tall, round beads, exactly what I hoped for!)

Did you only use gyeon prep before applying the second time? Maybe a paint cleaner or fine Polish is needed to completely remove the old layer, then use prep? But then again M&K Pure should've done it the first time..!

Let us know if you find out what the problem is!

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[QUOTE=mdebeum;5392169]Strange, I've tested both the contact 121 and the butter wax recently and below is the beading I get (tall, round beads, exactly what I hoped for!)

Did you only use gyeon prep before applying the second time? Maybe a paint cleaner or fine Polish is needed to completely remove the old layer, then use prep? But then again M&K Pure should've done it the first time..!

Let us know if you find out what the problem is!

Yeah, I will give the car a wash shortly and I'll add a picture of the beading after I applied 121 last week.

I have got to send a picture to Fraser too! It definitely ain't right! Yours looks how I'd expect it too!
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Old 14-10-2017, 09:52 PM   #33
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So today I cleaned the car! After one week the beading ain't too bad! I still ain't sure, think it should be better but I might be expecting a bit too much! What does everyone think? The wash today seemed to bring the wax back to life! Could it possibly be dust that's killing the water behaviour as I work in a dusty ish area with a lot of HGV's.

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Could it possibly be dust that's killing the water behaviour as I work in a dusty ish area with a lot of HGV's.
Dust certainly can ruin water behaviour; some LSPs seem more sensitive to this than others. It may be that 121 has amazing beading when clean but poor when dusty?
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Old 14-10-2017, 10:21 PM   #35
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Agree with the post above by Steelghost. I prepped my car a few weeks back with FK1000P and the beading was great but after a few rainfalls and driving in rain the beading wasn't as good as when the paint was clean and freshly waxed/sealed. I gave the car a wash today and was going to finish off with Sonax BSD but I didn't need to, the beading and water sheeting was great just as when I applied FK1000P a few weeks ago.

I'm not a scientist but I imagine that dust settles on the paint over time and rain and this will give water something to bond to which affects the beading. Once the car is washed, the dust layer is removed revealing sealed paint and then the beading/sheeting returns.
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So just short of 4 weeks now and after another wash with a PH Neutral Shampoo (ODK Jet) the beading has completely gone.

I am not impressed to be honest. I mentioned to Fraser 3 weeks ago that I would keep him updated and sent him a video which he did not reply to. I have sent him another message today. Might get a reply!
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Old 30-10-2017, 01:26 PM   #37
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Hey guys.

Spoke to Rob and I cant figure out for the life of me why its not lasting for him. Never had an issue with any pot and we have made and sold A LOT of pots.

I have offered to replace the pot but he is trying something else in the meantime.
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Hey guys.

Spoke to Rob and I cant figure out for the life of me why its not lasting for him. Never had an issue with any pot and we have made and sold A LOT of pots.

I have offered to replace the pot but he is trying something else in the meantime.
Yes thank you Fraser, I did a full detail on my friends 2015 Ford Focus. Snow Foamed, Washed, Fallout Remover, Clayed, Machine Polished ( Scholl S20 Black), Panel Wipe then applied Contact 121...

Let's see how this goes over the next few weeks.

Thanks for the reply and help Fraser!
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