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Old 15-06-2018, 03:35 AM   #41
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Speed Limits - How do you slow down?

This is why (3m13s)

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Old 15-06-2018, 09:58 AM   #42
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'why do i have to do 20mph going past a primary school at 2am in the morning?'
Simple reason is that many schools are based in residential areas, where there may still be person-activity 24/7, plus at 20mph cars do make less tyre and engine noise, so the rest can get better sleep.

We like to thin that our cars are so much quieter these days. They are, but only from the inside. Increased vehicle weights, wider tyres, chavvy pop fart exhaust fashions (guilty BTW) all actually make the cars noisier for those outside. Road roar - as in wind and tyre noise is the predominant sound of modern cars. Much better at 20mph.

It's a social, a legal and a safety thing. Not Mad Max where anything goes after dark.

Away from residential areas is a different matter.
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Old 15-06-2018, 11:07 AM   #43
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plus at 20mph cars do make less tyre and engine noise, so the rest can get better sleep.
are you being genuinely serious?
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Old 15-06-2018, 11:39 AM   #44
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Slow kills too. Especially when another bloody Honda Jazz joins the motorway at 30mph.
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Old 15-06-2018, 08:25 PM   #45
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The technology exists to have variable speed limits - are you prepared to pay for it?

I'd rather see my money spent on education, the NHS than to save 10-15 seconds by being to pass a school at a higher speed at 2am in the morning.
we dont need more nanny state intervention, we need people who are capable of making commen sense, dynamic risk assesments and drive to the road conditions.

not been to worried looking at their speedo and wondering if a camera is hiding in the next bush
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Old 15-06-2018, 08:55 PM   #46
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According to statistics the 20mph zones are causing more accidents.
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Old 15-06-2018, 09:27 PM   #47
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According to statistics the 20mph zones are causing more accidents.
According to statistics, 1 in 7 dwarfs is Happy.
Statistics don't mean anything without the context, Supermarket car parks have the highest accident rate, but very rare people get injured.
Motorway's have the lowest accident rate but have the most fatalities.

If people kept their selves to the speed limits, camera vans would be a thing of the past, every time they caught a speeder, shows that people cannot self-regulate.
It's a vicious circle, you speed more, they put more camera’s down and on and on.
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[QUOTE=Caledoniandream;5474082]According to statistics, 1 in 7 dwarfs is Happy.

Snow White can't be doing a very good job if only 1 dwarf is happy out of 7
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Old 16-06-2018, 05:10 PM   #49
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we dont need more nanny state intervention, we need people who are capable of making commen sense, dynamic risk assesments and drive to the road conditions.

not been to worried looking at their speedo and wondering if a camera is hiding in the next bush
What we need is fewer people who derive fun out of breaking speed limits in residential / urban areas

I live in a 20mph zone and sick and tired of people "who know better" and are obviously paying far more attention to their driving than their speed as they drive way in excess of the limit. Perhaps the parents of the little boy killed by such a driver last year should take comfort from the fact that the driver was applying common sense when deciding what speed was safe to drive at

Accepted is the fact that said child ran out - children are children and cannot be relied upon to always pay attention- the onus of responsibility lies with adults and quite rightly so

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What we need is fewer people who derive fun out of breaking speed limits in residential / urban areas

I live in a 20mph zone and sick and tired of people "who know better" and are obviously paying far more attention to their driving than their speed as they drive way in excess of the limit. Perhaps the parents of the little boy killed by such a driver last year should take comfort from the fact that the driver was applying common sense when deciding what speed was safe to drive at

Accepted is the fact that said child ran out - children are children and cannot be relied upon to always pay attention- the onus of responsibility lies with adults and quite rightly so
im sorry for their loss.

But youve hit the nail on the head - people should be concentrating on their driving and not the speedo, looking ahead for hazards, parked cars, children playing etc.
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