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Old 21-06-2018, 03:27 PM   #11
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There is no problem in using a paint cleaner before polishing, it is entirely up to you. The advantage is the old waxes etc will not start to clog up the pad, this is not a huge issue but will have a small impact. You also get a chance to see naked paint and so all the minor swirls or marks which were partially hidden by the waxes will now be exposed. The downside is cleaning the paint will take longer.

Westerman, I know you like ONR so when you get a chance it might be worth looking at the rest of the Optimum range. For example, with their polish, no need for IPA after polishing, just wipe with a ONR dampened cloth or if that seems like hard work then use their spray wax to remove the polish oils and protect the paint in one step.
Cheers, very helpful. I did suspect that it might be beneficial, albeit only slightly, to clean the panels with the BH Cleaner Fluid, prior to polish and for the very reasons you give.
It may all prove too labour intensive for my old bones so I'll see how I go.

As for the ONR, Yes I love it and your suggestions are very interesting.

I have already invested in the Cleaner Fluid and AG UHD wax and UHD shampoo at some cost so will be going that route this time.

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Cheers, very helpful. I did suspect that it might be beneficial, albeit only slightly, to clean the panels with the BH Cleaner Fluid, prior to polish and for the very reasons you give.
It may all prove too labour intensive for my old bones so I'll see how I go.

As for the ONR, Yes I love it and your suggestions are very interesting.

I have already invested in the Cleaner Fluid and AG UHD wax and UHD shampoo at some cost so will be going that route this time.

Thanks again,

Harry
You have bought some high quality products so it would be silly not to use and enjoy them. I do like the Optimum range, not just because they are technically clever but because they are very simple to use i.e. ONR is used to wash the polishing pads before storage and their wax is as hard to apply as a QD.

You could do a quick test, clean one panel with the BH and compare polishing to a panel which has not been chemically cleaned.
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I should probably have mentioned that I use cleanser fluid myself to strip some of the previous protection prior to doing a full decon.

My reasoning behind doing this is that I want my tar and iron removers to be acting on contaminants in the paint and not wasting any of their efforts fighting old LSP.

I might be wasting time/product, but the method works for me and it's not like a do a full decon every other week. Even if it costs me 1 bottle of fluid a year, that's hardly expensive by my estimation.
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I should probably have mentioned that I use cleanser fluid myself to strip some of the previous protection prior to doing a full decon.

My reasoning behind doing this is that I want my tar and iron removers to be acting on contaminants in the paint and not wasting any of their efforts fighting old LSP.

I might be wasting time/product, but the method works for me and it's not like a do a full decon every other week. Even if it costs me 1 bottle of fluid a year, that's hardly expensive by my estimation.
That's true Ollie, a full decon is only occasional and cost in that respect is minimal.

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You have bought some high quality products so it would be silly not to use and enjoy them. I do like the Optimum range, not just because they are technically clever but because they are very simple to use i.e. ONR is used to wash the polishing pads before storage and their wax is as hard to apply as a QD.

You could do a quick test, clean one panel with the BH and compare polishing to a panel which has not been chemically cleaned.
Thanks again,
great tip to wash pads in ONR too.

Yes the products I have bought are 'high end' for me but I like to play. I have mentioned before on here I am elderly but pretty fit still, however the DA gets heavy on my arms and I don't have the staying power I used to. Still, none of the enthusiasm has left me so I will play and see how much I can do. Could be a week or two as I'm working outside and it's going to be too hot and bright according to our weather report here in Sunny Lincs.!!

I am wondering the best way to maintain the UHD wax. Should I buy a custom QD to use after the UHD shampoo or use AG Detailer or of course I could make up ONR as a Detail Spray.

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No experience of the AG QD however most QDs in my experience tend to give only short term effects on any paint so perhaps there is a good argument for buying whatever QD you fancy.

ONR would be the cheapest way, make some up and see what you think.
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