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Old 03-11-2018, 08:35 PM   #1
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Best protection from tree sap and bird lime

I've just bought an E92 M3 in solid red but unfortunately it has to stay on our drive so I need a good protective finish to ward off tree sap and bird lime.

Advice please?

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Old 03-11-2018, 10:46 PM   #2
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I've just bought an E92 M3 in solid red but unfortunately it has to stay on our drive so I need a good protective finish to ward off tree sap and bird lime.



Advice please?



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I use this and works for me
Sonax BSD 50% mixed with Adams detailer 50%
Great protection, great shine : Thumb


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Old 04-11-2018, 11:22 AM   #3
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Do you have experience of this solution under trees or spotted with bird lime?

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Old 04-11-2018, 11:47 AM   #4
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I don't worry too much about tree sap as it shouldn't cause any long term damage, and a gentle wash with lots of water, preferably warm, will clear it. A regularly topped up wax/sealant should be sufficient.

Bird poop is another matter. The etching potential seems to be variable, but what I've read is it's down to what the bird has been consuming and how long the poop has sat on the car.

My personal take as an amateur is:
The best protection is a proper physical barrier, so best is PPF (Paint Protection Film), then some sort of Ceramic Coating, and lastly a regularly topped up wax/sealant.
These three are in cost order too.
Time sat on the paint is the key variable you can have some (inexpensive) control over, so you need to be constantly watching as a potent poop will quickly etch PPF, burn through CC and will laugh at your wax/sealant as it runs riot on your clear coat.
And always always carry some bird wipes or MFs and a small bottle of quick detailer in the car for the unexpected when out and about.

For reference, I, on an almost weekly basis, use Sonax BSD as a drying aid to save time and keep protection levels high constantly.
Car kept on drive. Can't say about how effective this is against poop as the few times I've been hit it has come off OK, but too many variables to say how good weekly BSD application is against other products. You can only do so much sometimes and have to accept you might get unlucky.

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Living near the sea we get Seagulls and though I try and wash it off asap it's just when we're away in our motorhome that the problem arises. Probably need to research car covers for those occassions.

I bought some Gyeon Wetcoat a while back but haven't used it yet and having seen the video on TAC Moonshine I was wondering if this might be an easy way to give some reasonable protection over the short term.

Has anyone real experience with this combination?

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As long as you get bird poo off fairly quick it shouldn't be a problem. If you don't get chance and it ends up etching your paint then try the heat gun trick, I tried it for the first time a couple of months back and it worked a treat. Apparently what causes the etching is something to do with the temperature of the paint and bird poo causing some kind of shrinkage or something, I think that's what it is anyway. I'm sure their was a post by autoglym a while back explaining it.
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If you’re going to leave the car while away regularly, I’d look at a quality car cover. Be sure to clean the car before you put cover on to avoid scratching.
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As long as you get bird poo off fairly quick it shouldn't be a problem. If you don't get chance and it ends up etching your paint then try the heat gun trick, I tried it for the first time a couple of months back and it worked a treat. Apparently what causes the etching is something to do with the temperature of the paint and bird poo causing some kind of shrinkage or something, I think that's what it is anyway. I'm sure their was a post by autoglym a while back explaining it.


The hairdryer trick works well!

One clarification though - bird poo doesn’t “etch” the surface at all. Thus, heating the area restores the finish. Absolutely no need to polish (removing lacquer).


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However, a polish does remove it, if the heat gun doesn't work.

Got given a company car that looked like it hadn't been washed in about a year, with two significant bird etchings on the front bumper.

A quick compound got rid of them and the scratches in those areas.

The damage can also depend on the paint. Newly resprayed areas tend to etch far more easily than OEM paint. A cover could work, but isn't without its own risks. People on here have had irreparable damage caused by using a cover, which sometimes causes moisture to get into the paint, causing milky areas to appear. Only way to get rid of them is a respray.

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The only sure fire way to protect the car from poop, especially seagulls which contain fish residue which is so powerful, is a cover.

Simply, you may need to remove it within hours and few can sit waiting for crap to land a rush out with a bottle of QD and a cloth instantly..

Have a look at these covers - they have a soft fleecy lining, are semi-tailored so fit well and shouldn't move around, and they start at £112.

http://carcovershop.co.uk/Protector-...ble-covers.asp
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