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Old 25-06-2018, 08:02 PM   #71
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I agree with Kartman.

I had the software update done as mine was one of the first to have it and I've had nothing but worse MPG and my DPF recharges have been more frequent even though I now do more long distance journeys it seems to recharge more frequently. It also feels down on power a little bit.

I'm seriously considering getting it reversed. There are horror stories of the DPF recirculation system going and costing the owners a few thousand to fix. IMO its simply not worth it and it is not mandatory.
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Old 25-06-2018, 09:13 PM   #72
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Better luck with the Golf. If the emission problem you mention is getting VW to apply their new anti-cheat software then under no circumstances yes this done and if booked in cancel it immediately. It is not mandatory and will cause a whole host of issues, reliability problems and worse mpg. If it is something else then worth checking if it has been done anyhow. However if it is petrol and not a diesel then ignore all the above!
This, stay away from having the update.
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Old 26-06-2018, 01:36 AM   #73
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Better luck with the Golf. If the emission problem you mention is getting VW to apply their new anti-cheat software then under no circumstances yes this done and if booked in cancel it immediately. It is not mandatory and will cause a whole host of issues, reliability problems and worse mpg. If it is something else then worth checking if it has been done anyhow. However if it is petrol and not a diesel then ignore all the above!


Unfortunately the update has already been done by vw. I called them and they said they will waiver whatever so hopefully it will sort the slight judder in idle and the dpf from running most of the time. Itís a lovely car though.


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Old 26-06-2018, 07:18 AM   #74
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I agree with Kartman.



I had the software update done as mine was one of the first to have it and I've had nothing but worse MPG and my DPF recharges have been more frequent even though I now do more long distance journeys it seems to recharge more frequently. It also feels down on power a little bit.



I'm seriously considering getting it reversed. There are horror stories of the DPF recirculation system going and costing the owners a few thousand to fix. IMO its simply not worth it and it is not mandatory.

I was led to believe you couldnít have it reversed ?

I had it done on my A5 and didnít really notice any difference, didnít keep it too long afterwards, so obviously no issues, but I did get a letter from VE / Audi saying if any issues related to the software update - running, DPF in future etc would be looked at with potential no cost to owner.

But the letter wasnít an acknowledgement that this would / could happen, just to add some reassurance to the owners.

On one hand this letter gave me peace of mind, but they didnít go so far as to say they would do it FOC which had that niggle in the back of mind that theyíd do what they could to avoid...
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Unfortunately the update has already been done by vw. I called them and they said they will waiver whatever so hopefully it will sort the slight judder in idle and the dpf from running most of the time. Itís a lovely car though.


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The issue may be unrelated but I suspect it is as a result of it. I know they offer goodwill on egr failures for a certain time but unsure if such thing would transfer over to the next owner. If you plan on keeping it long term then I would recommend getting the car remaped by one of many well reputed companies about that specialise in Vag cars. You have to tell insurance but my CC has a shark map and transformed it no end.
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Whilst the software change cannot be reversed there are a few tuning companies that have copies of the previous software that they can load back on. If you ask the dealers they will advise that they cannot do it.

From what I understand reading about the software change, the software changes the fuelling and injection pattern to reduce Nox emmissions which is why people are seeing a drop in MPG.

Companies such as DynoMap in Stevenage and Shark Performance in Nottingham will roll back your software to pre emissions fix whilst others will put a new map on completely or update the existing map.

The most common failures seem to be in Tiguans and anything with the 1.6 Diesel engines, with the EGR Valve being the common fault and some even needing new Turbos and DPF's.
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My Mrs works for VAG and as above they are not permitted to roll it back (they could) but she says it caused massive issues with cars after the update.
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I have heard many horror stories already. Nothing good at all.

I called VW on the off chance as I saw a recall code written in the service book and they said yeah thatís the emission update. E198 or something like that. Then she said why are you having issues. I said car dog generates a fair bit, stop start doesnít work very often if not at all. I believe this is due to the dpf running and mpg. I do 90% motorway and I get at best 600 miles. Before the updates were around people were getting 800+.

My dad had the dsg version and he had a bluefin which changed the car drastically. Unfortunately from what I read in their website they wonít do a roll back. Some companies will however so Iíll see if I can get all the work I can out of VW and then go from there.

Car so far has just hit 52200 and Iím averaging 70mpg. Had fuel filter changed everything service since the beginning. So Iíll be keeping it that way. I would blank the egr but itís a pain in the **** to change as the subframe is in the way.

And I will create a new thread for the car as Iím getting a vcds cable for it so make some big changes

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