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Old 09-08-2018, 12:45 PM   #1
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Where do i start!?

OK so i'm a complete

I had a brief go at learning to detail about 2 years ago so i have acquired some products & am familiar with some terms & 2 bucket method but please talk to me as if i know nothing.

I've got 2 cars which haven't been cleaned in quite a while, they have contamination & tar, probably no protection, having said that there's no sign of any rust or damage.

I'm not looking for a show level finish or anything, i'd just like to learn how to get a better than average clean & look after the cars properly.

My normal wash routine would be

1) jet wash to remove debris
2) shampoo (2 bucket method)
3) jet wash
4) spray with autoglym wheel cleaner
5) jet wash
6) interior with autoglym plastic spray

I've just purchased the autofinesse wheel kit & had a go with that, so iron out, oblitarate, mint rims wax, tyre creme & was really happy with the result so thats inspired me to get the rest of the car looking better.

So here is the question, where do i start?

What do i need to do to get the car at a point where i can polish / wax?

What do i do with a polish / wax?

I'm pretty sure i have enough products to make a decent start but is there anything that i really need to do or any product i may already have that would really benefit the car & i haven't been using?

Thanks in advance
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Old 09-08-2018, 03:18 PM   #2
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To get to apont where you can begin paint correction you'll need to follow the below steps first

1)Prewash and snow foam

2)Clean seals and plastic with APC & Wash

3) Dry.

4)Tar Remover

5)Rinse.

6)Dry.

7)Fallout remover.

8)Rinse.

9)Clay with car still wet.

10)Wash to remove clay residue.

11)Polish

12)Seal
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:30 PM   #3
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To get to apont where you can begin paint correction you'll need to follow the below steps first

1)Prewash and snow foam

2)Clean seals and plastic with APC & Wash

3) Dry.

4)Tar Remover

5)Rinse.

6)Dry.

7)Fallout remover.

8)Rinse.

9)Clay with car still wet.

10)Wash to remove clay residue.

11)Polish

12)Seal
Thanks for your help Rian,

Can you please explain for me what you mean by paint correction?

Is APC & Wash, all purpose cleaner & buff it out with microfiber?

Is Fallout remove Iron out?

And what is seal? I don't think i have anything that says seal on it

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Old 10-08-2018, 02:31 PM   #4
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Thanks for your help Rian,

Can you please explain for me what you mean by paint correction?
Sorry to jump in but just saw this thread so thought I might be able to assist Paint correction is polishing, either by hand or machine, with a compound to remove swirls, light scratches and other imperfections.

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Is APC & Wash, all purpose cleaner & buff it out with microfiber?
Yes it's all-purpose cleaner, and no, once you've cleaned the areas you want with the APC you then rinse the whole lot off and wash the car.

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Is Fallout remove Iron out?
Yes, that's just one of the many brands out there.

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And what is seal? I don't think i have anything that says seal on it
Sealants are synthetic coatings that can be used instead of wax, so you can polish to get the paint perfect, then apply a glaze for maximum shine and gloss (if you like), and then seal that in with either a wax or sealant on top, or a sealant and then a wax on top of that if you want to

Here are some links explaining the difference between waxes and sealants:

https://www.autofinesse.co.uk/waxpai...he-difference/

https://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html

https://adamspolishes.com/using-waxes-versus-sealants
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:21 AM   #5
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Sorry to jump in but just saw this thread so thought I might be able to assist Paint correction is polishing, either by hand or machine, with a compound to remove swirls, light scratches and other imperfections.



Yes it's all-purpose cleaner, and no, once you've cleaned the areas you want with the APC you then rinse the whole lot off and wash the car.



Yes, that's just one of the many brands out there.



Sealants are synthetic coatings that can be used instead of wax, so you can polish to get the paint perfect, then apply a glaze for maximum shine and gloss (if you like), and then seal that in with either a wax or sealant on top, or a sealant and then a wax on top of that if you want to

Here are some links explaining the difference between waxes and sealants:

https://www.autofinesse.co.uk/waxpai...he-difference/

https://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html

https://adamspolishes.com/using-waxes-versus-sealants


Thanks CleanGirl!

I think i'm getting there, I gave it a wash yesterday & iron out but its still not clean clean so i'm holding off on the polish.

Waiting for some auto foam, citrus pre wash & clay bar to arrive.

Hoping that gets it clean & then i can go for a polish
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This is a learning process as with anything new at the start it is always confusing, as you feel you are the only one not knowing what to do. Everyone had the same experience, we used to had a tread of initial mistakes, we all make them so take your time.

Work from a known skill to the next one, those plans are very helpful, put in the products you use, I change mine when I find something better.

Soon you will be doing it on others cars where a range of products can be used going forward.

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Thanks for the replies!

i'm getting used to the idea now, the biggest hurdle for me was just getting an idea of what order to do things in.

I'm getting a delivery later so now full clean using everything i've got is going to be something like this:

1)citrus spray over arches / grills etc
2)auto foam snow foam/prewash
3)exterior plastic trim with APC
4)wheel cleaner
5)dry
6)tar remover
7)dry
8)iron out
9)clay bar
10)contact wash

If the car is clean move onto polish, if not then repeat 1-10

11)Polish
12)Seal


Once i've got the car cleaned & sealed i guess i can cut some stages out for a regular wash in between?
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Thanks for the replies!

i'm getting used to the idea now, the biggest hurdle for me was just getting an idea of what order to do things in.

I'm getting a delivery later so now full clean using everything i've got is going to be something like this:

1)citrus spray over arches / grills etc
2)auto foam snow foam/prewash
3)exterior plastic trim with APC
4)wheel cleaner
5)dry
6)tar remover
7)dry
8)iron out
9)clay bar
10)contact wash

If the car is clean move onto polish, if not then repeat 1-10

11)Polish
12)Seal


Once i've got the car cleaned & sealed i guess i can cut some stages out for a regular wash in between?
Sounds like you've got the idea, just dont forget to dress the plastics and rubbers and seal the glass these will come before or after waxing or sealing

Youll be able to cut a few stages for a regular maintenance wash.

Mine consists of

1) Foam and rinse wheels with Diablo wheel gel
2)wash wheels with Auto Finesse revolution and a combo of Microfiber mit and brushes, then rinse wheels

3) Foam car
4) use Valet pro citrus pre wash in a spray bottle and a detailing brush to clean body lines e.g the gap where your bumper meets the car

5) rinse car
6) wash car with 2bm
7) rinse car
8) spray wheels with Auto Finesse Aqua coat and rinse

9) dry car with plush MF and Dodo Juice future Armour to top up protection and to help dry

Once every few months use a fall out remover on your wheels, and get one of these https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-bo...rush/p/1173440 for a quick scrub out of the arches every month.

You'll will find a routine that fits your needs after a month or so
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That video is amazing!

but he does say not to use APC on the interior!? pretty much everything i've read says clean the interior with APC.

What would you use instead of APC? i have some vinyl cleaner for the plastic but nothing for the wheel / cloth?
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