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Old 28-01-2009, 05:30 PM   #41
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My pump delivers 2200L/min and the Kranzle only needs 600L/min, so no issue. I havent used the detergent pipe yet TBH, and probably wont any time soon as I am trying to avoid foaming and splashing detergent all over the place
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L/Hr surely ?
Indeed, Damon got his times a bit muddled.
10L per min = 600L per hour
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Old 28-01-2009, 05:50 PM   #42
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What are the costs involved with kind of set up?
I think...

Rainwater diverter, £10.98:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=110332100341

Butt pump £33.94

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=300285083519

Butts x 2 £42.00 delivered

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=110342765602

£86.92 total.

I wonder what the ROI on this is? Depends on how many cars you are washing and how often...
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Old 28-01-2009, 05:53 PM   #43
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Indeed, Damon got his times a bit muddled.
10L per min = 600L per hour
That's actually not too bad. One 220l butt would then last 22 mins, or am I getting this wrong? It seems a long time.
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Old 28-01-2009, 06:22 PM   #44
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Where on each tank do you mount the hoze connecting them together?
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Old 28-01-2009, 06:42 PM   #45
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Hi guys

I too have a water butt, standing some 25cm off the ground. I previously used all my collected water from here, and had great results, as I live in a very high hard water area, I was always up against the clock trying to dry my car before i encountered watermarks. I now know this is never a problem using my collected rainwater.

I was wondering, as I've recently purchased a PW, and have fallen back into my old ways of running this off my outside tap, has anyone had any success of running a PW from a water butt supply?

Could I simply attach one end of my hose to the tap on my butt, and would I encounter any problems, due to low feed pressure? am I correct in thinking the pump in my Karcher does all the work, therefore no loss of pressure from my PW would be evident? my PW is a K2-950M 110 bar

Nige

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Old 28-01-2009, 06:58 PM   #46
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hi

have posted this on here a couple of times

We have a 6000 litre rainwater tank that was installed when doing our newbuild

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this supplies us with hosepipe water, toilet flushing and washing machine supply and from the gutter goes through a leaf filter, pump filter and then another one before entering the house. This leaves the water as clean as out the tap

our water supplier told us our normal water bill for our house size should be £450 p/yr but we are only paying £160 p/yr and thats with more than average car washing with a kranzle

we use IBC's at work and just had a shufty on ebay and they are only £35. This is what I would use if looking for a cheap system
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Old 28-01-2009, 06:58 PM   #47
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That's actually not too bad. One 220l butt would then last 22 mins, or am I getting this wrong? It seems a long time.
that will be correct, obviously you need to take into account the tap isn't right at the bottom of the waterbutt, and you don't want to run it dry, etc.
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Old 28-01-2009, 11:04 PM   #48
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Indeed, Damon got his times a bit muddled.
10L per min = 600L per hour
my bad - typo as stated

2200L/hr pump
600L/hr Kranzle

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I think...

Rainwater diverter, £10.98:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=110332100341

Butt pump £33.94

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=300285083519

Butts x 2 £42.00 delivered

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=110342765602

£86.92 total.

I wonder what the ROI on this is? Depends on how many cars you are washing and how often...
ROI was not an issue as I had the water butts for >8 years since we moved in, but you're right, thats still a fair bit of water you could buy for that.

I didnt do it purely for money saving, although thats part of it, as the 'no water spotting' was a huge time saver (and that = money for me) and it makes me feel good knowing no treated water is used

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That's actually not too bad. One 220l butt would then last 22 mins, or am I getting this wrong? It seems a long time.
yep - get 2-3 good foam & rinse washes from a tank. You dont pump to the bottom as thats where any sediment sits anyway and pumps need a few inches of water to work.

A standard water butt will quickly run out during a few dry weeks of summer if we ever get any hence my 1600L monster tank which has yet to ever get <25% full from washing activity

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Where on each tank do you mount the hoze connecting them together?
the 2 water butts are connected about half way up, and the 2nd butt has a connector right at the top that goes to the 1600L tank. This allows sediment to sink in the forst 2 tanks and not reach the main tank I use. Actually works very well and means the 2 water butts stay pretty full year round and are always available for garden use for my wife, so no grief for using up the plant watering supply

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Hi guys

I too have a water butt, standing some 25cm off the ground. I previously used all my collected water from here, and had great results, as I live in a very high hard water area, I was always up against the clock trying to dry my car before i encountered watermarks. I now know this is never a problem using my collected rainwater.

I was wondering, as I've recently purchased a PW, and have fallen back into my old ways of running this off my outside tap, has anyone had any success of running a PW from a water butt supply?

Could I simply attach one end of my hose to the tap on my butt, and would I encounter any problems, due to low feed pressure? am I correct in thinking the pump in my Karcher does all the work, therefore no loss of pressure from my PW would be evident? my PW is a K2-950M 110 bar

Nige
depends on your Kranzle Nigel

the 10/120's and K1150 like mine, dont like drawing from a static water supply as the pump is running too fast to draw water sufficiently. The 7/120 is designed to run well from a static source like a water butt, due to the lower speed pump Your manual will tell you for sure.
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Old 29-01-2009, 09:25 AM   #49
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I think I'll look into this.
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Old 29-01-2009, 09:43 AM   #50
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I really only have space for one butt, any tips on how to get the water as clean as possible out of it?
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