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Old 09-10-2017, 04:30 PM   #21
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10% Surfex is perfectly sensible for general cleaning of exteriors (although I tend to up it a bit for tyres). Considerable overkill for Auto Foam though!
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Not been on here much but am I right thinking snow foam/lance is not the way to pre wash now and better to use snow foam through a pump sprayer.

Used the lance the other day and whilst it looks impressive didn't seem to move much dirt off the car.

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I found surfex to leave white marks sometimes that's why I stopped using it even at what I thought were low dillutions
What sort of dilutions were you using for it to leave white marks?
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10% Surfex is perfectly sensible for general cleaning of exteriors (although I tend to up it a bit for tyres). Considerable overkill for Auto Foam though!
Is that 10% on the paintwork for Surfex? What dilution through a pump sprayer for Auto Foam do you recommend?
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:08 PM   #25
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Surfex is a de-greaser, I thought for engine bays and similar?

I would stick to Green-star if I wanted something to put through a pressure sprayer, alter dilution ratio to suit requirements.

Do not let green star dry on anything mind. Wet the car first if it helps or do it in the shade.

I feel BH autofoam is a lot safer in this regard.
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Not been on here much but am I right thinking snow foam/lance is not the way to pre wash now and better to use snow foam through a pump sprayer.

Used the lance the other day and whilst it looks impressive didn't seem to move much dirt off the car.

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Pump sprayer tends to be more economical but the cleaning power is largely the same IMO. Depends what foam you use as to how good the cleaning is, for instance, I don't rate the cleaning at all of autobrite magifoam. However Bilt Hamber autofoam seems to leave the car pretty much clean even when it's monging
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Is that 10% on the paintwork for Surfex? What dilution through a pump sprayer for Auto Foam do you recommend?
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Dilute as required to obtain a PIR (panel impact ratio) of between 1:100 and 5:100.
ie the liquid actually landing on the vehicle should contain between 1% and 5% Auto Foam. I tend to use it around the 3-4% mark.

For Surfex, yep 10% is fine on paintwork (there is a thread somewhere where BH themselves said that even neat it wouldn't actually do the paint any harm so long as it was washed off properly).

I think that's the key with pretty much anything on paintwork - thorough rinsing. I've seen marks on my paintwork when I was using 5% Surfex to clean door shuts because it didn't get rinsed off properly.
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ie the liquid actually landing on the vehicle should contain between 1% and 5% Auto Foam. I tend to use it around the 3-4% mark.

For Surfex, yep 10% is fine on paintwork (there is a thread somewhere where BH themselves said that even neat it wouldn't actually do the paint any harm so long as it was washed off properly).

I think that's the key with pretty much anything on paintwork - thorough rinsing. I've seen marks on my paintwork when I was using 5% Surfex to clean door shuts because it didn't get rinsed off properly.
Thanks for clarifying that up for me SG and sorry to OP for hijacking thread slightly.

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Recently used a 4% mix of Autofoam and Surfex on a neglected neighbours car through a pump sprayer. Car was pressure washed prior to the prewash. This was topped with snow foam to prevent the pre wash drying then PW off after a few mins... photos speak for themselves!



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