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Old 13-03-2018, 07:33 PM   #1
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This doesn't feel right, self-employed status

Ok, I know nothing about employment law so any help is much appreciated,

My son has been offered a job but only if he accepts it being on self-employed basis doing contract work and being reasonable for filing his own tax returns.

Is the owner of the company simply trying to avoid his responsibilities? I am concerned that my son would have little or no protection that an employee would have.

Is this common?
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Not unusual, my youngest step daughters fella is a self employed painter and decoratorand that pretty much sounds like what he has to do.
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Old 13-03-2018, 07:42 PM   #3
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Not unusual, my youngest step daughters fella is a self employed painter and decoratorand that pretty much sounds like what he has to do.
Thanks Muzzer, I have been lucky to have been employed with the same employer for over 30 years so this is new to me.
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Becoming more and more popular andy. You do have less employee rights, no paid holidays etc but you do pay a lot less tax (20% instead of 40% if your son hits that threshold) and also usually get paid a higher rate than staff.

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Get a good accountant, and drill into him that he must keep every single receipt. If the shop doesn’t give him one, make sure he asks for one!!
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And then you can claim for pretty much everything, Nick gets a tax rebate once a year and the last one was not far off 3K.
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As mentioned this is becoming really common place. Gets the company out of paying numerous things, Not sure on NI but i would imagine so. No sick, Holiday etc.

However, note a recent court case regards Pimlico plumbers in London who are all self employed, yet have been taken to tribunal regards working hours.

I myself would never do it - but, for some i guess it works well!
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As mentioned this is becoming really common place. Gets the company out of paying numerous things, Not sure on NI but i would imagine so. No sick, Holiday etc.........
And no pension contribution liabilities either.
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This should help

https://www.gov.uk/employment-status...yed-contractor

Also, the IR35 rules might apply. Have a search on the .gov site.
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but you do pay a lot less tax (20% instead of 40% if your son hits that threshold)
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This is nonsense! The tax brackets are the same for PAYE and Tax Returns.
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