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Old 15-03-2017, 10:03 PM   #21
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I haven't done a comparison but as greenstar was sold out everywhere I ended up buying BH Surfex instead. Used it as a pre wash in a spray bottle at 10:1 ratio and I was really impressed.
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Old 16-03-2017, 07:25 AM   #22
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I haven't done a comparison but as greenstar was sold out everywhere I ended up buying BH Surfex instead. Used it as a pre wash in a spray bottle at 10:1 ratio and I was really impressed.
This is exactly the point I've been making - using an aggressive APC at ~10% strength will clean very well, whether it's Green Star, Surfex HD, Auto Smart G101, or whatever else. There is a trade-off with LSP life span but most people on here aren't short of supplies of LSP to top up with
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I've only used surfex HD once and I wasn't impressed didn't think it did munch in the way of degreasing and tar removal. But due to the number of positive reviews and comments I will give it another go looking to get some green star. I live in an area surrounded by farms in the winter the cars were minging. It might be the answer


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Personally I prefer stick with BH Autofoam as a pre-wash (using a pump sprayer) rather than an APC.
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I've only used surfex HD once and I wasn't impressed didn't think it did munch in the way of degreasing and tar removal. But due to the number of positive reviews and comments I will give it another go looking to get some green star. I live in an area surrounded by farms in the winter the cars were minging. It might be the answer


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Nothing water based will really touch tar (short of a 60°C high pressure TFR truck wash) - it simply doesn't dissolve in water. Just as well really, otherwise the roads would wash away
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This is exactly the point I've been making - using an aggressive APC at ~10% strength will clean very well, whether it's Green Star, Surfex HD, Auto Smart G101, or whatever else. There is a trade-off with LSP life span but most people on here aren't short of supplies of LSP to top up with
Tell you what.. next time I wash the car I'll reseal it with fusso soft 99. I will then use green star once a month and find out what month it finally gives up

I imagine this will be a very long term test and there will be no top ups for the sealant (I never bother anyway).

I will confirm all prep work and cleaning gear to be used tonight
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Green star is so much better than I expected. Ive just done a touch-less wash on the car after it being covered in mud. 1-15 mix sprayed on and left to dwell for 5 minutes. Pressure washed off them blown dry. Its not perfect, but not much residue left easy maintenance wash.
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Personally I prefer stick with BH Autofoam as a pre-wash (using a pump sprayer) rather than an APC.
I do both.

GreenStar on first, basically the dirty lower half of the car, gets attacking the worst of the grime. Then BH autofoam over the whole car.

I'm still in two minds about wetting the car body first before applying GreenStar. I think dry grime is harder to remove.
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OP get rid of your af avalanche its rubbish. bh auto foam is much better i havnt used green star or surfex on my car as a pre wash but as said it will probably de grade the wax thats on the car more than a specific pre wash say auto foam will
obviously depending on dilution ratios

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I was also impressed how much brake dust it removed. I would say it outperformed a dedicated wheel cleaner without agitation. It massively out performs BH auto foam which I’ve been using for a couple of years. I’ve yet to try it though a snow foam lance. It works out at less than 40p a wash which I’m happy with. As fir degrading wax time will tell but having just bought some Bilt Hamber double speed wax I’m happy to reapply it.


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