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Old 09-09-2018, 01:29 PM   #11
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My own view (having recently upgraded from a 65” Samsung plasma to a 75” Sony full array direct backlight with local dimming LCD/LED is that there is a big jump in picture quality even with upscaled HD - my new TV has much better motion handling, much more accurate colour, and far higher brightness.

When I am able to use 4k HDR (and especially with Dolby Vision) then this really does show how far image processing has improved over the years. I don’t mean all the artificial processing/smoothing modes that more often ruin the image, but the base processing that simply achieves a natural image, correct colour, correct brightness/contrast, and fluid motion without needing to resort to professional calibration.

UHD Blu-ray definitely gives the best picture with an appropriately well mastered disc, but even watching Sky Q and HD sources looks so much better.

So choose wisely and you should easily see the improvement both from a bigger screen and better quality images.

Prices will be better again come January on current 2018 model TVs once the major manufacturers announce their 2019 ranges at CES, but like any tech you have to decide to buy when it suits you as there are always new models with more improvements just waiting to be launched. So expect brighter screens with potentially better colour accuracy again next year, although the improvements are becoming incremental again rather than being massive steps forward as the current technologies and processing mature.
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Old 09-09-2018, 02:15 PM   #12
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I know Virgin will be available within a few months, problem is I've recently locked myself into BT for 18 months.
I think it might be best to wait a while and within around 12 months see what's available then. That way I can buy myself out of BT....

Harry

Harry, just wait until BT email you with a price increase - probably around January time if previous history is to go off - you can then give them notice you’re not happy with the increase and leave - it’s in their T&C as is their ability to just increase your cost mid contract - I’ve had the argument several times with them...
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:10 PM   #13
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My own view (having recently upgraded from a 65” Samsung plasma to a 75” Sony full array direct backlight with local dimming LCD/LED is that there is a big jump in picture quality even with upscaled HD - my new TV has much better motion handling, much more accurate colour, and far higher brightness.

When I am able to use 4k HDR (and especially with Dolby Vision) then this really does show how far image processing has improved over the years. I don’t mean all the artificial processing/smoothing modes that more often ruin the image, but the base processing that simply achieves a natural image, correct colour, correct brightness/contrast, and fluid motion without needing to resort to professional calibration.

UHD Blu-ray definitely gives the best picture with an appropriately well mastered disc, but even watching Sky Q and HD sources looks so much better.

So choose wisely and you should easily see the improvement both from a bigger screen and better quality images.

Prices will be better again come January on current 2018 model TVs once the major manufacturers announce their 2019 ranges at CES, but like any tech you have to decide to buy when it suits you as there are always new models with more improvements just waiting to be launched. So expect brighter screens with potentially better colour accuracy again next year, although the improvements are becoming incremental again rather than being massive steps forward as the current technologies and processing mature.
Thanks for your helpful post, from the research I've been doing your comments do make a lot of sense.
Just as in any other industry whatever is the best at the time soon becomes yesterdays tech and on we go!

It seems 4K is similar in context to how 'HD Ready' followed by 'Full HD' were at the time. Theres the technology for great viewing but a shortage of material to be viewed in the format.
However the ability of some TV's to upscale means an improvement even though it's not yet the real deal.
I'm still leaning towards waiting a while and coinciding the new telly with switching to Virgin but being of an impulsive nature, anything could happen

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UPDATE:-

Well I said I was impulsive !! I have spent the last week looking at TV's and reading reviews.
It's obvious the very best are Oled or Qled and way above my price bracket anyway as I was looking sub a grand.

Having always had Panasonic but they do seem to have been overtaken by the likes of LG, Samsung and Sony.

Anyway I never thought I would go 'left field' but I have plumped for a 55" Hisense. model H55U7AUK at a price of £649.

All reviews and reports say it punches way above it's price with 4K UHD, HDR,Certified with up scaling and using Hisense's heavily patented 'ULED' which I think is and LED Edge backlight system that works well.

I'll see how I get on. Internet channels will be curtailed according to my lack of speed but until I get Fibre Optic I'll muddle through.
At least now I have the technology and bigger screen

If you wonder at the Hisense, check out the model I have bought (above) it looks good.

Expecting delivery tomorrow from A.0.

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Ooh good news then - hopefully arrive tomorrow and you can get it set up and enjoy - don’t forget the “before” and “after” shots of the new TV
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I have always been into Sony and nearly bought the AF8 but due to Android tv interface being a pain and slow I to a gamble with LG C8 as the AF8 has the LG panel anyway love it interface fantastic and voice control great.
As said already I have got caught out he internet speed needed for Netflix and the likes, but await my 4K DV player soon, and getting good picture on Freesat box.
Matched with sonos sound bar it’s great
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I have always been into Sony and nearly bought the AF8 but due to Android tv interface being a pain and slow I to a gamble with LG C8 as the AF8 has the LG panel anyway love it interface fantastic and voice control great.
As said already I have got caught out he internet speed needed for Netflix and the likes, but await my 4K DV player soon, and getting good picture on Freesat box.
Matched with sonos sound bar it’s great
I have a Panasonic HD Bluray player at the moment with twin freeview and will probably update that to a UHD / 4K job.
I have a Panasonic sound base which certainly is an upgrade on TV sound and offers a number of nice audio options. Looking forward to getting the TV tomorrow and setting it up.

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