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Old 12-12-2015, 02:03 PM   #51
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Who cares what the panel is from? Its coated in automotive paint. I get your point that its not on a car that is a daily driver but Ive seen other manufacturers coat a scrap bonnet and they leave it outside or on a roof to test their coating against others.

He is testing their performance relative to each other against Alkaline. Which imo will still give a decent understanding of which coating is more resistant than others.

Not a pointless test at all. Thanks for the taking the time to do this OP.
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Old 12-12-2015, 02:17 PM   #52
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I correct me if I'm wrong here after all I only been doing this pro wise for 28 off years.
How can this test near any relevance to what a product will stand up to in the real world. The R&D of the companies accelerate the weathering process but not like this....
I'm off to apply some dressing to my patio table to see which one is more effective against being stolen.
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Old 12-12-2015, 02:32 PM   #53
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What is your favorite and why?
I do not have one favorite. There is no perfect coating.
But I can admit that, for example:
Pomponazzi 880 has best gloss effect I have ever seen.
Very good durability had: Finest 2011, Ceramic Pro 2012-13, Echelon Zen Xero.
But carpro changed finest formula, as and ceramic pro, Echelon was very expensive and had other cons (water etching, low gloss etc)

Usually best looking coating have low durability or other cons. That is why we а looking for "pies" like (cheap variant) soft99 H7 +ceramic pro light and etc.

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Old 12-12-2015, 03:17 PM   #54
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The R&D of the companies accelerate the weathering process but not like this....
And what? how to relate this accelerate weathering test to your grimed car? ))
You are not a child but still believe in fairy tales...
Please give a proof(link) for your words about investing millions in R&D and weathering tests.

p.s. I see you are in koch sect. If its true, further dialogue with you does not make a sense. )

here is test place of japan manufacture:

its looks like patio table... yep

menzerna manufacture
https://youtu.be/gO0oTZsjtbw?t=137

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Old 12-12-2015, 03:53 PM   #55
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IGL HQ at Malaysia are also tested their coating with the same method that Alex post above.
Honestly...we're only exposed to the coating technology within these last 6 years.And within these last 3-4 years,many new materials and molecular matrix are introduced to coating system.
The base coat already good,but harder materials tend to be more brittle.Imagine all the stress from vibration and flexing from the car panels.So i think we need a good top coat that can preventing premature failure of "crystal structure"
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So then you are agreeing with me then that a better test would be in a car that is subjected to the stresses. To see how it stands up otherwise the test is pointless unless you just leave the car on the drive

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Old 12-12-2015, 04:20 PM   #57
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No it isn't pointless... maybe not 100% accurate speaking of real driving situation but not pointless
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So.http://atlas-mts.com/news-events/new...9ad63902bcc9f4
And
Http://www.awlltd.co.uk/
Are talking from their bums
And as for your picture on dear oh dear. They do look DISTINCTLY like bonnets or roof panels. Not a side from a filing cabinet.
If you want to test a product in the real world apply the correct parameters. Otherwise the results are worthless. ( IE VW emission ) what you may rate as high in your test may not stand up to anything in real world. But hey it won't wash off if you park under a leaky gutter.
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No it isn't pointless... maybe not 100% accurate speaking of real driving situation but not pointless
If it's not accurate then it's pointless. It's like spreading srp on a piece of bread to see the filling capability.... pointless test isn't it
A test has to match the same conditions it is to be used in or else it's just false information that then is classed as misleading.
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Well...i live in a hot tropical country that many car owners (especially women) have their own personal driver.And that so called personal driver are washing the cars unproperly with detergent.And they're also washing the car very slowly under hot sunny day,and with hard tap water too...So Alex test aren't pointless at all.But yes,i also test many kind of coatings on my own daily driven car.And my favourite area are rear fender and rear bumper for maximum stress area
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