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Old 17-08-2016, 09:56 PM   #11
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I haven't read the link but I hope the dog was destroyed. Some dogs just shouldn't be owned as pets. Human lives are more important, though I know some on here will disagree.
more the fact that some people shouldn't own dogs
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Old 17-08-2016, 10:19 PM   #12
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Any dog that kills or seriously injures an innocent person should be destroyed, regardless of breed or type of owner. There is no place for them in society.
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Old 17-08-2016, 10:56 PM   #13
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Any dog that kills or seriously injures an innocent person should be destroyed, regardless of breed or type of owner. There is no place for them in society.
does that include such dogs as police dogs?
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As someone who has worked with dogs in the past, I know that any dog is capable of attacking other animals - breeds responsible for attacks that we saw were often Jack Russells, Border Collies etc. The problem comes when this aggressiveness is paired with physical and, to a degree, psychological attributes of certain breeds, especially those bred for fighting/guarding. This extends beyond those breeds that have been banned; the fact that a breed is not on the banned list does not make it 'safe' and most dog attacks have come from non-banned breeds. Remember that the domestication of dogs from wolves is a fairly recent thing and as pack animals, they have a specific hierarchy and complex social order. Owners have to be aware of this and act accordingly. Unfortunately, most don't. As with having children, there's no certification before you're let loose with them and they can turn out bad!
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does that include such dogs as police dogs?
Dont be so bloody ridiculous.....a police or army dog will tackle a human that its instructed to and release when its told and it wont go for areas like the throat.

You are being obtuse and argumentative on purpose.

Fact is any dog that is badly treated can be a killer be it a pitbull or a cocker spaniel...doesn't matter
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Dont be so bloody ridiculous.....a police or army dog will tackle a human that its instructed to and release when its told and it wont go for areas like the throat.

You are being obtuse and argumentative on purpose.

Fact is any dog that is badly treated can be a killer be it a pitbull or a cocker spaniel...doesn't matter
The problem is that dogs bred for fighting like the Pittbull or Mastiff, can do 10 times more damage than a Cocker.
The jaw pressure is excessive and the way the teeth are set does much more damage.
Pittbull are famous for their jaw lock.
One of my dogs (American Cocker) attacked a little friend of my girl's friend son (minor damage) and when I spoke to the vet, he advised me to put it straight down.
He told me "if he done it once, he will do it again.
Following his advise, he did it with tears in his eyes, as he was there to safe animal lives, not to end them.
But it was the best thing to do, in hindsight I am always glad I did, as you see many of the attacks you see in the news, the dog has attacked before.
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Old 18-08-2016, 07:28 AM   #17
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It's just a myth that pit bull and staffys have "lock jaw" they just have extremely strong muscles in their jaws and neck.


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Staff-lab cross is the breed apparently.

All dogs are dangerous in the wrong hands which is a real shame as staff type breads are the main culprits. I've seen what damage a chihuahua can do, evil little ****s

Remember when my lad got nipped by a neighbours bordie the collie (safe with kids, good breed etc) she said it was out of character and that the dog probably went for the zip on his coat.
An absolute dreadful excuse, went and spoke to the dad in the family and it turned out its a rescue dog and is now only walked by him

Lock jaw, really. Do your research before spouting rubbish about strong breeds of dog
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Dont be so bloody ridiculous...

You are being obtuse and argumentative on purpose.
True, but just ignore him. Sadly I expect this thread will go the same way as the others, and will be closed pretty soon.
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Pittbull are famous for their jaw lock.
That quote is famous for being complete nonsense and always wheeled out when a thread like this is being debated.

Sadly the debate on so called dangerous dogs is one that will always be contentious as it always provokes strong views.

What is a shame is when mis-information is quoted as fact but that is mainly as a result of sensationalism in the media.

This is quite informative https://www.battersea.org.uk/batters...-banned-breeds

We need to move past banned breads and look at the root of the problem.

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