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Old 13-09-2017, 07:28 PM   #1
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Waxing help

Hi all Dean again ,

I have noticed a few business in and around the area offer a wash n wax which is brilliant , but then I found out that the waxing stage consisted of them using a quik wax spray as a drying aid and saying its waxed opposed to traditional methods of paste etc, is that OK to do? , is that not cheating the customer somehow? , just curious as I want to eventually get in the biz and obvs offer a wash n wax but wasn't sure if that counted if you get me

any help /advice on what you do or know others to do would be appreciated
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Old 13-09-2017, 08:24 PM   #2
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I'm Far from an expert, in fact I'm new and still learning myself. But, This sounds like they are using a QD, spray wax, that with my limited understanding will leave a nice shine and protection that will last a couple of weeks or so.
I suppose loosely they are waxing the car so they aren't lying.

If I ran a car wash service (not detailing service) and charged car cleaning prices this would be acceptable,I think. If I offered a hand wax service I'd have to do just that and not just a squirt n go.

If however I advertised a car detailing service this wouldn't be acceptable. There is a massive difference between detailing and bolt standard car wash places.

Hope that makes a bit of sense.
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yes definately . Thanks for the reply . If i was to say start my own car care business do you think it would be ok to say wash n wax is ex amount of price using a quick wax but also add a hand wax as an add on ? just throwing ideas out
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I am an amateur, but just to throw in that Tesco advertise "fully waxed by hand" Premium services like using AG Radiant Wax (which is SRP) at an additional price beyond the normal valet.

I think Mr Average considers "Waxing" as putting something glossy on after washing. They would probably expect to have to pay a bit extra for a long lasting hand applied paste wax ?

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yes definately . Thanks for the reply . If i was to say start my own car care business do you think it would be ok to say wash n wax is ex amount of price using a quick wax but also add a hand wax as an add on ? just throwing ideas out

As with any business if you do exactly what you advertise then there can be no complaints.

I'd say if you want to start your own car cleaning (not detailing) business then it's prudent to do some research as to what is available in your area. Get prices, services and what extras are offered. Then do your business plan.

Your business plan will be your bible as to what you need to be doing to earn x amount in x amount of time. What suppliers you can use, cost of products etc.

I'd say your in the right place to get great HONEST advice.
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yes definately . Thanks for the reply . If i was to say start my own car care business do you think it would be ok to say wash n wax is ex amount of price using a quick wax but also add a hand wax as an add on ? just throwing ideas out
Are you thinking of going mobile or static
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static and then mobile tbh nothing in concrete yet just an idea theres alot to think about im just trying to learn as much as i can via videos books forums etc also hands on learning aswel my Bro in Law works at a scrapyard so can get bits and bats to practice on my aim will be the avg daily driver not the high end target but i still want to give the best possible service as im passionate about it and its all i can think about ha
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Your business plan will be your bible as to what you need to be doing to earn x amount in x amount of time. What suppliers you can use, cost of products etc.
Exactly this.

Waxing by hand will take a lot longer than applying a spray wax at the drying stage so you'd need to factor that in to your cost model. If you believe the extra 10 minutes to hand wax the car is worth the extra you can charge someone, not to mention the actual cost of the wax itself.
You'll also need to work out whether the customer will notice any difference. The finish of a wax is subjective at best, so to convince a customer that they are getting extra benefits from a hand applied wax for an extra cost is probably going to be a tough sell.
To be honest, if you're going to the effort of applying a wax by hand, I'd have thought you'd get better results by applying an all in one that also fills minor swirls and adds protection.
Most cars will be swirled to heck anyway so whether you use a paste or spray wax won't make much difference to the finish, whereas a decent all in one will look night and day and realistically take the same amount of time to apply as the hand wax.
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