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Old 04-09-2017, 09:17 PM   #1
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First time machine polishing - no luck

Evening all,

Looking for a bit of advice and what to try next.
I had my first attempt at machine polishing at the weekend but didn't have any luck removing any swirls.

I'm using the Xtreme DA polisher from Argos (I know it's probably not that great, but reviews were pretty good and was a decent price).
After washing the car with snow foam, 2 bucket method then claying, I made the first attempt using poorboys ssr 2.5 with a chemical guys quantum hex orange pad.
Followed all guides I had watched, pressure seemed right (I marked the pad/backing plate to see if the pad stopped) all went fine, did half of the bonnet, buffed off, made no difference....

I'm 90% sure it will be my technique but want to be sure it's not the products to blame entirely.
Is SSR2.5 aggressive enough?
I appreciate not all swirls are as deep as others, but ssr 2.5 didn't seem to touch them.

Also, what's a good method to remove all previous coatings such as polish, sealant, wax etc to get a good starting point?

Sorry there are so many questions in 1 go, but got lots to learn and a bit disheartened that I didn't get any results!

Ford Kuga 2014

Picture of swirls:

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Old 04-09-2017, 09:22 PM   #2
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What is the car???

Maybe if it's German, for example, your combination may not be enough.

If it was your first go at machining then maybe worth getting a scrap panel from somewhere which is the same brand as your car to practice technique on



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Sorry I meant to say, Ford Kuga 2014
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I'm no expert as I'm new to this myself but some of the swirls maybe being made by the pad and paste from your first going.
so another polish with a lighter cut and a white pad to polish out remaining swirls.

Like I say I'm a newbie to this myself so I'm only going on info I gleaned from here and from watching video clips.

There is a good video on here about machine polishing. I'll go hunt it out and put a link up for you.

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What's the car bud? This may give an insight into want type of paint you are dealing with. Poorboys SSR 2.5 is not the best tbh. Having said that technique may be to blame also. The polisher in question doesn't have the greatest torque so if you have marked the pad when making a initial pass make sure the speed is set at nearly the highest setting and apply excess pressure until the pad stalls and the black mark is struggling to rotate. Let up a little on the pressure until the pad is rotating freely and you've found your ideal pressure. Work slowly and keep the areas small. If you still have no luck I'd be trying a alternative polish bud.
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Here is the link to the video Jez. It's a great informative watch.


http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...olishing+guide
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What's the car bud? This may give an insight into want type of paint you are dealing with. Poorboys SSR 2.5 is not the best tbh. Having said that technique may be to blame also. The polisher in question doesn't have the greatest torque so if you have marked the pad when making a initial pass make sure the speed is set at nearly the highest setting and apply excess pressure until the pad stalls and the black mark is struggling to rotate. Let up a little on the pressure until the pad is rotating freely and you've found your ideal pressure. Work slowly and keep the areas small. If you still have no luck I'd be trying a alternative polish bud.
Thanks, it's a Ford Kuga 2014.

I didn't expect miracles from the Xtreme polisher, but it should do somewhat of a job, even if it's a bit more difficult. I had it on about 3/4 speed setting, pad was spinning freely, but ofcourse I may not be putting enough pressure on it.

Is there something else you'd recommend over the SSR 2.5?

I'll try again another weekend when the weather is good, didn't realise they were so noisy! Don't want to **** my neighbours off doing it every weekend lol

Any tips on stripping back all other coatings for a fresh start?
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Here is the link to the video Jez. It's a great informative watch.


http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...olishing+guide
Thank you I'll have a look through that
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claying should have removed the previous coating.
Poorboys ssr takes alot of work to break down.
going by the pic of bonnet with the swirls megs 205 on a white hexlogic pad would remove most of it at speed 5-6.
Get a green hexlogic pad & megs ultimate compound and you will remove the swirls ,work an area 3 pads width by 3 pads width, 18"x18"square spread at speed 2 ,then use speed 5-6 moving slowly , do 6 passes and stop , wipe off
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claying should have removed the previous coating.
Poorboys ssr takes alot of work to break down.
going by the pic of bonnet with the swirls megs 205 on a white hexlogic pad would remove most of it at speed 5-6.
Get a green hexlogic pad & megs ultimate compound and you will remove the swirls ,work an area 3 pads width by 3 pads width, 18"x18"square spread at speed 2 ,then use speed 5-6 moving slowly , do 6 passes and stop , wipe off
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Thanks Mac,

I'll get a white pad and some megs ultimate compound. Typical after I've bought a bottle of SSR 2.5 lol.

Wouldn't it be better on the orange pad first though for more cutting? Or is the megs compound more aggressive and better on a softer pad?

Not questioning your advice, just want to understand the what's and why's
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