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Old 04-09-2017, 10:32 PM   #11
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Watch the video it'll become clear what to use. He uses #105 & #205 with orange and white Hex pads.
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:49 PM   #12
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Or maybe try some scholl S20 with their purple spider pads
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:30 PM   #13
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Ford paint is usual medium on a hardness level.

I would be surprised if you can't get rid of the swirls with the pad and compound you already have.

You need to speed up your machine to 5 and probably slow down you arm speed.

Machine polishing is not a quick thing to do.

Make sure you clean your pad after each set of passes as well.

I haven't seen you work but I would say it is your technique rather than product choice.



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Old 04-09-2017, 11:39 PM   #14
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Ford paint is usual medium on a hardness level.

I would be surprised if you can't get rid of the swirls with the pad and compound you already have.

You need to speed up your machine to 5 and probably slow down you arm speed.

Machine polishing is not a quick thing to do.

Make sure you clean your pad after each set of passes as well.

I haven't seen you work but I would say it is your technique rather than product choice.



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Thanks Rob,

I would agree it's most likely my technique to blame, but didn't want to waste lots of time on it if the products were not the right choice for the job.
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Old 05-09-2017, 12:00 AM   #15
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Thanks Rob,

I would agree it's most likely my technique to blame, but didn't want to waste lots of time on it if the products were not the right choice for the job.
The combo should do the job buddy.

I highly recommend watching the junkman vids. That is how I learned and a lot to trial and error.

Don't get disheartened.

Also as already said, keep your work area small.
For example a kuga sized bonnet would be divided into 6 sections.

I recently done my ford focus bonnet in 6 sections and that took me over a hour to compound then I spent another 45 mins to refine the finish.




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Old 05-09-2017, 12:16 AM   #16
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You do have a lot of swirls and the poorboys polish isn't up for the job, so I would recommend Sonax EX 04-06 on a green hex quantum pad or the white pad, try the white first as a test area on the bonnet and if that works carry on but if you feel it hasn't removed all of the swirls then step up to the green pad.

I would say you need to ramp up your speed to 5-6 for a couple of passes then down to 4 for a couple of more passes. Test spots are to help you determine which pad to use and polish.
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Old 05-09-2017, 08:02 AM   #17
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Thanks Mac,

I'll get a white pad and some megs ultimate compound. Typical after I've bought a bottle of SSR 2.5 lol.

Wouldn't it be better on the orange pad first though for more cutting? Or is the megs compound more aggressive and better on a softer pad?

Not questioning your advice, just want to understand the what's and why's
As mentioned by others start soft first then step up , i should of said in my post, white pad & 205
white pad & UC
green pad & UC
As mentioned by Chongo ,sonax is really good as well.
Take your time and enjoy .
Megs 205 to finish on CG black pad.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:56 PM   #18
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Hi Jezza

I have added my two pence worth...

Evening all,

Looking for a bit of advice and what to try next.
I had my first attempt at machine polishing at the weekend but didn't have any luck removing any swirls.

Keep trying!

I'm using the Xtreme DA polisher from Argos (I know it's probably not that great, but reviews were pretty good and was a decent price).


Its possibly in the same league as a Porter Cable


After washing the car with snow foam, 2 bucket method then claying, I made the first attempt using poorboys ssr 2.5 with a chemical guys quantum hex orange pad.
Followed all guides I had watched, pressure seemed right (I marked the pad/backing plate to see if the pad stopped) all went fine, did half of the bonnet, buffed off, made no difference....


To be honest I don't feel snow foam adds anything to the process but it looks good.
SSR 2.5 is an older polish I dont believe it has diminishing abrasives in it and the chemical guys orange pad is pretty agressive. Try a chemical guys green hex pad with scholl s3, this will lift most scratches on medium to hard paint, however your machine may not be powerful enough. What speed were you using it at? For my DA's I use 4 or 4.5 on a scratch. Wipe down with a panel wipe and inspect, on darker colours you will have to refine.


I'm 90% sure it will be my technique but want to be sure it's not the products to blame entirely.
Is SSR2.5 aggressive enough?
I appreciate not all swirls are as deep as others, but ssr 2.5 didn't seem to touch them.

Also, what's a good method to remove all previous coatings such as polish, sealant, wax etc to get a good starting point?


Tardis will remove old sealants/wax


Sorry there are so many questions in 1 go, but got lots to learn and a bit disheartened that I didn't get any results!

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Picture of swirls:
Not to worry keep up the good work, if you didn't make any mistakes you would never learn.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:52 PM   #19
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Not to worry keep up the good work, if you didn't make any mistakes you would never learn.
He's not made any mistakes bud he's just not getting the results he's after
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I'm coming to the conclusion that "polishing" is as much an art form as a science.

There's just sooooo many variables and that's before you add in the "human" stuff about the way you like to work and what machine(s) you have available.

Just like a painter or sculptor - enjoy the experience and use that experience to deliver a better outcome next time.

You're already better than 99.99999% of the population .

Good Luck.

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