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Old 10-12-2015, 03:27 PM   #11
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Here are a couple of pics to show the difference in beadage.

My wax:


Professional wax:


Both waxes side by side:
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Old 10-12-2015, 06:30 PM   #12
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You have three forces acting here.
Cohesion (the water sticking to itself), adhesion (the water sticking to the surface), and gravity (trying to push the bead flat).
Can't change gravity, can't change cohesion without adding something to the water, or cooling it to nearly freezing point. So the only way to change the shape of the bead is to decrease adhesion to the surface. Ie, by using a really good wax,

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Old 13-12-2015, 12:43 PM   #13
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So would I be right to think that to achieve beadage of the height below, a small amount of silicone would be needed in the blend or can the 'adhesion be lowered further via natural ingredients to achieve the sort of height shown?

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Old 14-12-2015, 07:10 PM   #14
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I've never tried to mix any of my own waxes, so I have no idea what you could mix successfully. I used to coat my bicycle frame and bars in WD40 before the winter, I've used graphite grease in bearings, telfon spray on hinges, and silicone grease spray on various things.
WD40 obviously wouldn't work in a wax, although I did hear that it was mostly paraffin, so.....
Graphite is probably going to be dark grey so not a lot of good,
No idea where you'd get teflon from or how you'd mix it into a wax,
Same goes for a suitable silcone.
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Old 15-01-2016, 03:24 AM   #15
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Hi Babyalien,

Just wondering if yo managed to find how to make the beads taller in the end? I myself am trying to figure out what helps with this aspect as well, hope you can provide me with some insight~

Much appreciated!
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Old 20-01-2016, 10:19 AM   #16
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No not really. Had a little play with the blend by rebalancing oils and solvent and has maybe helped a tiny bit, but could just be the placebo effect. Really not sure if it is possible without additives or not as feeling like I've pushed it as far as I can with just wax, oils and solvent though I'll keep trying as I'm a determined bugger haha.
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Old 16-11-2016, 09:56 PM   #17
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hmm now that winter is setting in, is it time for me to venture into home brews... probably not but these threads make interdasting reading.
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Old 18-11-2016, 03:26 AM   #18
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Both waxes do look good but the professional wax definitely has the edge. What is the professional wax? Maybe you can find out what ingrediants it has so you know which avenue to head towards
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Old 01-08-2017, 03:35 AM   #19
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@ Soft99 we use a specifically designed synthetic polymer for hydrophobicity, and I doubt you'll be able to beat our team of scientists with some household products or natural oils (umm, let me know if you do haha)

Your best bet is searching for commercially available polymers made for hydrophobicity, and with appropriate solubility in your solvent, and/or melting point for your equipment. Also sufficient hardness for durability.

If you can't get small enough amounts, try asking a suitable friend to order a 'sample' through their business. You might even get it for free haha
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Old 26-09-2017, 10:02 PM   #20
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Try some lanolin

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