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Old 19-02-2018, 12:30 PM   #231
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Spent Sunday afternoon having a crack at the engine mounts. First up the rear one as it's meant to be the most difficult to do.

Well I can tell you that it's a right bloody faff. Even once it was loose it was it was still a pain to get out. To be honest, second time round I reckon I could get it done in an hour start to finish as it's deffo a job that once you know how to do it and the best combo of extensions etc it's so much easier.

Old mount out. :cuss:

IMG_20180218_155525 by PoobahUK, on Flickr

You can't really see the rear mount condition with it fitted so this was really the first time I could gauge condition. Deffo needed doing. Only 70k miles on it but a straight through failure. The actual rubber condition wasn't too bad (not perished) but its seriously had its day.

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New and old mounts

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And new mount in. 8)

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Old 02-03-2018, 01:21 PM   #232
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Quick update. Haven't done much given the weather. Anyway, got the new left transmission mount in.

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Also got the main right hand engine mount in. Both an absolute piece of cake compared to the rear one.

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Looking at their condition, they're both in pretty decent shape considering. So that's two out of the 5 mounts that were actually ok!

Also removed the airbox lower mounting bar as it was a bit crusty and didn't want to re-fit it like that. Anyhow, a good bath in Deox C, Electrox and then Champioship White followed by clear coat. Job done.

IMG_20180224_085956 by PoobahUK, on Flickr

Next up I've been looking at the exhaust manifold and the double pipe resonance issue. Originally I'd thought about putting tack welds between the two pipes as a couple of other people had done but it seemed a bit of a bodge given the gap between the pipes. Anyhow, as I'm a rail engineer I reverted to an old favourite. Back in the day we used to use something called Chemical Metal for fixing cracks, holes, damaged castings in high temp areas. It worked a treat but they banned it (think it was carcinogenic) and since then there's been a few products with the same name but not nearly as good. Anyway, a colleague pointed me in the direction of Quick Steel Xtreme which is a similar product but intended for very high temp applications (resists up to 1300 degrees Celsius). Perfect for the job. Best bit is that you can do it at home, don't need a welder and hence don't need to take the manifold off the car to fix it (even though I have............ )

So I've set about using it to bond the inner and outer pipes together. To make sure it's a stable joint I've used various tools to pack Quick Steel into the space between the pipes and have built it up in layers. Still needs a final grinding to finish it off but it's looking good so far. Cures like rock.

Proof will be in pudding but I'm pretty confident it'll do the trick in this application.

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Old 03-03-2018, 10:42 PM   #233
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Nice work yet again Poobah !!

Good fix on your manifold pipework.
I remember donkeys years back I had a 1993 K Rover 214Si and I developed a tinny rattle from the front of the car and it was the twin walled down pipe.
I got it replaced and the car was perfect after that.

The car was based on the Honda Civic, and a lot of the parts carried over.
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:00 AM   #234
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Wow!! I love these cars, you've bought the best version in my opinion. Really well done. Thanks for sharing.

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Old 15-03-2018, 11:49 PM   #235
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Ok a few updates for you. So first up I picked up another UKDM manifold to rectify the corroded fastener and stud issue on my original. Picked it up from a member on here and set about refurbing it. First up, a bath in Deox C.

IMG_20180307_152326 by PoobahUK, on Flickr

Not bad and had brought off most of the corrosion. Ground the rest of the corrosion off with the dremel, masked it up and then set about coating it with 1000deg manifold paint. Came up well and looking forward to getting it back on.

IMG_20180310_080817 by PoobahUK, on Flickr

I also went through the same process and epoxy coated the transmission mount bracket and the subframe brace. Both ready to go back on now.

IMG_20180303_125503 by PoobahUK, on Flickr

Also picked up some new fasteners for the sump for when I swap them over and a new lower rad clamp as mine was pretty shot. All from R Motion. Excellent as always.

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Next up, more grinding. Removing the radiator, manifold etc had highlighted how scabby the rear of the front panel and area under the airbox were. Nothing major but certainly something worth addressing whilst it's all apart. So first up, grind back and then Hydrate 80.

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All dried and ready.

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And then epoxy mastic laid down in three coats.

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And then finally, I'd also identified that the front slam panel was looking a little tired. Given I've got the front bumper and headlights off at the moment for other jobs I thought it'd be a good time to re-do this section. So as usual, ground back, hydrate 80 and then electrox primer, championship white and then clearcoat over the top. Really chuffed with how it come out, really glossy finish.

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That's all for now but more updates coming soon.
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Old 16-03-2018, 09:13 AM   #236
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Smashing project, I'm enjoying this one very much. Couple of questions if I may - to someone who clearly has a good working knowledge of the BH range.

(I have read the whole thread, and apologies if this has been discussed before.)

Have you tried Deox Gel in place of Hydrate? Am I right in thinking your preference for the latter is due to not having to wash down afterwards? Any other thoughts on the relative merits of both products?
Does the Hydrate appear to promote (or hinder) adhesion of whatever you overcoat it with? For example, is the Epoxy happy enough on bare metal?
Are you degreasing the panel after the application of Hydrate?
Are you laying Electrox down under the Epoxy? If so, or not, why?

Sorry for all the questions! I'm looking to do something very similar quite soon and appreciate you sharing your process in such detail.

Many thanks in advance.
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Old 16-03-2018, 09:41 AM   #237
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Smashing project, I'm enjoying this one very much. Couple of questions if I may - to someone who clearly has a good working knowledge of the BH range.

(I have read the whole thread, and apologies if this has been discussed before.)

Have you tried Deox Gel in place of Hydrate? Am I right in thinking your preference for the latter is due to not having to wash down afterwards? Any other thoughts on the relative merits of both products?
Does the Hydrate appear to promote (or hinder) adhesion of whatever you overcoat it with? For example, is the Epoxy happy enough on bare metal?
Are you degreasing the panel after the application of Hydrate?
Are you laying Electrox down under the Epoxy? If so, or not, why?

Sorry for all the questions! I'm looking to do something very similar quite soon and appreciate you sharing your process in such detail.

Many thanks in advance.
Tom
Hi Tom, well Deox Gel (as with Deox C) is for rust removal, whereas Hydrate 80 is for neutralising the surface after you've removed the corrosion (or as much as you can). All the parts I refurbish get a Deox Gel or C application (depending on their size), but for bits of bodywork, underframe etc that aren't removable I tend to grind back to fresh metal where possible and the Deox Gel any crevices I can't get to. After that, everything gets a Hydrate 80 coating as a precaution.

Hydrate doesn't appear to affect adhesion at all really. I've gone over it with primer and epoxy and its fine. As for the epoxy, that can go over bare clean metal, hydrate, electrox or standard primer. Pretty versatile to be honest.

As for electrox, where I'm back to bare metal across a complete area I'll lay down electrox but there's not much point in laying down both hydrate and electrox in myopinion therefore I use them as an either/or kind of deal (unless I've run out of normal primer and electrox is all I have!)

As for degreasing, I degrease and clean the areas after most stages to be honest. Never hurts to ensure the prep is right.

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Excellent information, many thanks!
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Old 19-03-2018, 10:33 AM   #239
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Got a couple of hours yesterday to do a nice bit of re-assembly. A nice change from all the grinding, painting and generally messy work.

First up, the transmission mount and bracket back on the car.

IMG_20180318_132841 by PoobahUK, on Flickr

First up, I got the lower airbox plate and the expansion tank bracket installed. New black oxide and yellow passivate bolts.

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Next up, I got the fan mounted cleaned up and back onto the new radiator. Again with new yellow passivate bolts.

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Then got the rad fitted, newly refurbed upper mounts fitted, earth strap re-attached, expansion tank on, new yellow passivate hose clamps.

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What's your strategy for selection between zinc passivate and black oxide on the fasteners please?

Thanks in advance.
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