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Old 20-03-2017, 11:51 AM   #1
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Testing out wash pads ( micro marring ) Adams, Gtechniq, Dooka OSHA

After noticing some pretty bad markings on my paint from washing i decided todo some testing of different wash pads and mitts to try and find one that is the most kind to the paint. The marks on the paint were similar to swirling but all in straight lines basically all following the pattern that i use my wash pad. I believe the marks have been caused by the Adams wash pad as that is when i started really noticing them.

**This post is not to bash any products Im well aware that the paint on my car is particularly soft. I have never had any bother with any of these pads when using on cars with factory paint. The purpose of the test is basically to find a pad that marks the soft paint on my BMW the least

I polished the bonnet, boot lid and one door completely removing all the light marring and then panel wiped them so each of the panels i was testing on had perfect paint and no protection on them whatsoever. I then drove the car around 50 miles so it had some dirt on it and was a fair test, then washed it

Wash Method
Rinse
Citrus pre wash
Rinse
Snow foam
Rinse
Snow foam
washed with pads and mitts
2 bucket method grit guards
Adams shampoo
Dried, patted dry with CarPro fat green BOA drying towel ( excuse the fluffs )

While washing i was extremely careful, basically applying no pressure and just dragging the pad across the paint.


The results


Adams pad

I used the top of the boot lid as a test area for this pad





There was some pretty noticeable marks after just one wash as you can see, think i can safely say this is what has caused the marks on my paint as the whole car is covered in the same type of marring which is actually more noticeable as its a build up over several washes.

Its a pity as i do really like the Adams pad, it holds tonnes of product and is so easy to maintain always washes up great.


Gtechniq Mitt

I used the drivers side half of the bonnet for this one





This pad also inflicted some of the same type of marring but i would say it was less noticeable


Dooka OSHA Pad

I used the passenger side of the bonnet as a test area for this pad. I also used the door but can't really count that to be fair as the bonnet and bootlid were painted at the same time so its the same clear coat on each panel, the door has also been painted at some point but not at the same time so could be softer could be harder.




The obligatory Dooka Pad pose






Paint on the door was still pretty much perfect




The Dooka pad did also cause some very light marks but these were barley noticeable and as you can see i couldn't get them to show up on the camera but i could see them in person but only just. It certainly caused the least out of all the pads and is definitely going to be the pad i now use for this car.

Also considering this was all with no protection on the paint whatsoever. Im going to be putting Gtechniq CSL and EXOv3 on the car soon so that should make a big difference and I'm hoping that with the coatings Along with the Dooka wash pad i can keep the paint reasonably swirl free. Getting the coatings on without marking the paint will be fun though !!!

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Old 20-03-2017, 11:54 AM   #2
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Awesome test. Thanks
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Old 20-03-2017, 11:56 AM   #3
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very interesting and cheers for doing this! as you say your paint is very soft! i use the adams wash pad on my fiesta ST and checked it very closely yesterday after i saw your comments on another thread but couldnt see any damage under the light thankfully but i'm going to keep an eye on it no though! i know fords paint is soft/intermediate so might be a bit more forgiving than your bimmer
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Old 20-03-2017, 11:57 AM   #4
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Your car could be good test bed for rinseless wash test.

Manufacturers claims that rinseless wash doesn't cause swirls because they are super lubricant but I doubt it.

ONR vs Wolf's vs Carpro would be nice to see
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Your car could be good test bed for rinseless wash test.

Manufacturers claims that rinseless wash doesn't cause swirls because they are super lubricant but I doubt it.

ONR vs Wolf's vs Carpro would be nice to see

I can pretty much guarantee they would make and absolute mess of my paint
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I can pretty much guarantee they would make and absolute mess of my paint
Make a test?
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Old 20-03-2017, 12:35 PM   #7
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I've been using the Adams wash pad now for about 8 months and to be honest I've never seen any damage at all besides 1 very fine scratch on the bonnet which I inflicted but saying that my car and the old Merc did have hard paint but now I think I will purchase the Dooka pad because of the great reviews it's getting. Great review mate
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Were all these pads/mitts new and had they been washed first before use?
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I don't have any waterless wash products and would be a waste of money to get any as I would never use them. I would happily do a test if someone wants to send me some product to use. Aslong as it's before I do the coatings.

The Gtechniq is the oldest around 15 washes the Adams around 5-6 washes and the Dooka had only been used once before. All pads had been washed before use
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So if I'm reading this correctly...

Wash Method
Rinse
Citrus pre wash
Rinse
Snow foam
Rinse
Snow foam
washed with pads and mitts
Dried, patted dry with CarPro fat green BOA drying towel ( excuse the fluffs )


You're not actually washing with any shampoo, you're just using the snowfoam as the wash chemical?

If this is the case then you will definitely get some sort of marring as the snowfoam won't be lubricated like a good shampoo is and will not offer any protection against marring.

Or have I missunderstood the post and you did use a shampoo?

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