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Old 24-12-2016, 11:07 PM   #21
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It says it's highly alkaline. It did a great job of cleaning but will it degrade your lsp
Not degraded my lsp at 1:10
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Old 24-12-2016, 11:18 PM   #22
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For the people saying 'I have used this once and my LSP is fine' the thing is it isn't going to degrade your LSP with one single application. Just as an observation, it won't instantly strip or degrade your LSP after one use. You might find washing your cash once per week over a month that this will indeed degrade your wax much more than a more gentle snow foam.

It is finding a fine line between cleaning power and LSP safety as pre washes are maintenance wash products. Personally I would only use these type of strong pre washes when you plan a full detail. Regardless the cleaning power does look good.
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Old 24-12-2016, 11:22 PM   #23
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For the people saying 'I have used this once and my LSP is fine' the thing is it isn't going to degrade your LSP with one single application. Just as an observation, it won't instantly strip or degrade your LSP after one use. You might find washing your cash once per week over a month that this will indeed degrade your wax much more than a more gentle snow foam.

It is finding a fine line between cleaning power and LSP safety as pre washes are maintenance wash products. Personally I would only use these type of strong pre washes when you plan a full detail. Regardless the cleaning power does look good.
Totally agree Brian with what you say, I have that much wax that applying after one week or 8 weeks doesn't bother me, I enjoy wax application and removal.
What does bother me is prewashing with crap results so hence this purchase now of GS
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Old 25-12-2016, 02:06 AM   #24
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Love these kind of real world tests, thanks for posting your results. Have a great Christmas (and hopefully this stuff is in some January sales!)
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So it's 100% LSP safe at 1:10? Does it contain anything that could cause any damage to the paintwork after long term use?
Any harsh cleaner will degrade wax. Lsp safe is pretty meaningless. Many harsh cleaners may not strip wax totally I.e there may still be evidence of some protection through beading, but they will certainly reduce the life of the lsp. If you define lsp safe as not stripping wax totally, then a lot of harsh tfrs will clean very well and still leave some protection. Don't however expect more than a few washes form a show wax
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Cheers Wayne for the review this stuff must have some kick in it, if it out performed VP and BH Auto foam at the same time definitely getting some of this.
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Just ordered some from amazon to try
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Surely the point of a pre-wash is simply to remove the worst of the muck and major debris that could cause major marring during the primary wash?

Using a presure washer with a serious VOLUME throughput of water, not just pressure, will make the biggest difference to washing power and a bigger difference than wash chemical. My Kranzle pumps 10L of water/min compared to typical Karchers that pump about 6L. Thats almost twice as much water rinsing the panel in the same amount of time and a far better and cheaper way to pre-wash the worst grime off before a 'proper' wash.
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Surely the point of a pre-wash is simply to remove the worst of the muck and major debris that could cause major marring during the primary wash?

Using a presure washer with a serious VOLUME throughput of water, not just pressure, will make the biggest difference to washing power and a bigger difference than wash chemical. My Kranzle pumps 10L of water/min compared to typical Karchers that pump about 6L. Thats almost twice as much water rinsing the panel in the same amount of time and a far better and cheaper way to pre-wash the worst grime off before a 'proper' wash.
That's great but by using a prewash you can shift even more muck before contact washing

Prewash is really cheap, and fun.
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really? I think the OP just showed you didnt really?

All you do is waste time, money & create mess for little gain and erode your LSP.
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