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Old 31-05-2018, 10:15 AM   #11
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Gold class and cleanmax both contain gloss enhancers and will have a detrimental effect on the wax performance.

You want a pure shampoo like adams shampoo, waxplanet lava, carchem 1:1900 or britemax puremax to best maintain your LSP.

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Nothing wrong with that as they are still WAX SAFE the op asked for wax safe, nothing mentioned about not having gloss enhancers that I saw.

And clean max isnt gloss enhancers as such but it has a wax and polymer blend in it to help encapsulate the dirt and to help the water sheet off!
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Plus 1 for DoDo Born to be Mild. Used it often. Very slick and sudsy.

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Autoglym UHD and Adams blue. Both very very good soaps. I use the blue in warm sunny days, as like said before it can be used quite happily on sunny days. Neither leave anything behind on the panels. And both have good cleaning abilities


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Autoglym UHD and Adams blue. Both very very good soaps. I use the blue in warm sunny days, as like said before it can be used quite happily on sunny days. Both leave anything behind on the panels. And both have good cleaning abilities


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Old 31-05-2018, 11:47 AM   #15
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Agree these are my 2 current favourites, I think UHD gives slightly more suds but am still experimenting with the Adams Blue. UHD smells lovely

As an alternative although only available in gallon size Megs Hyper Wash is pretty much wax safe.

For sheeting I find Autoglym Bodywork Shampoo Conditioner impossible to beat - but cant comment on it being wax safe or not.
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Old 31-05-2018, 12:21 PM   #16
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AG shampoo conditioner is nice, although not that foamy
I bought some of this recently and yes I'd concur. It was so poor I thought I hadn't put enough in the bucket, although it was the directed amount.
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Nothing wrong with that as they are still WAX SAFE the op asked for wax safe, nothing mentioned about not having gloss enhancers that I saw.

And clean max isnt gloss enhancers as such but it has a wax and polymer blend in it to help encapsulate the dirt and to help the water sheet off!
They alter and reduce the ability of the wax to repel water and consequently dirt. They may not wear the wax away but they do reduce it's effectiveness all the same so I would argue they are not wax safe in that respect.

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Removes Tough Grime

Polymer & Wax Fortified

Rapid Sheeting Action

High Gloss Finish

pH Balanced

Non Alkaline

Pleasant Grape Scent

Also availabe in*retail size 946ml

Also availabe in*pro trade bulk US gallons

Leaves a gloss finish, how do you think it achieves that? Not slating cleanmax as I love it but if I wanted a wax safe shampoo it would be pure max. As for gold class that is well documented for years to clog up and reduce the ability of an LSP to repel water.



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They alter and reduce the ability of the wax to repel water and consequently dirt. They may not wear the wax away but they do reduce it's effectiveness all the same so I would argue they are not wax safe in that respect.

Description for cleanmax below:

Removes Tough Grime

Polymer & Wax Fortified

Rapid Sheeting Action

High Gloss Finish

pH Balanced

Non Alkaline

Pleasant Grape Scent

Also availabe in*retail size 946ml

Also availabe in*pro trade bulk US gallons

Leaves a gloss finish, how do you think it achieves that? Not slating cleanmax as I love it but if I wanted a wax safe shampoo it would be pure max. As for gold class that is well documented for years to clog up and reduce the ability of an LSP to repel water.



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Hiding the waxes abilities would not be damaging to the wax therefore it would be wax safe as it wont damage the wax and may even prolong it due to the small wax and polymer coating it left behind.

I use Detailer's Pro Poli-Coat Paint Sealant (New Formula) and top it up with DODO juice future Armour every wash and have never noticed a reduction in my beading when using cleanmax vs autowash by bilt hamber labs, tight uniform beads each and every time, granted its not a wax LSP but it hasn't affected it
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Hiding the waxes abilities would not be damaging to the wax therefore it would be wax safe as it wont damage the wax and may even prolong it due to the small wax and polymer coating it left behind.

I use Detailer's Pro Poli-Coat Paint Sealant (New Formula) and top it up with DODO juice future Armour every wash and have never noticed a reduction in my beading when using cleanmax vs autowash by bilt hamber labs, tight uniform beads each and every time, granted its not a wax LSP but it hasn't affected it
There won't be a reduction in LSP performance if you are topping it up with a spray sealant every wash

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For sheeting I find Autoglym Bodywork Shampoo Conditioner impossible to beat - but cant comment on it being wax safe or not.
It is (as is Pure Shampoo and our UHD Shampoo).

This is a good post about our shampoo https://www.autoglym.com/blog/2017/0...poo-do-i-need/

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I bought some of this recently and yes I'd concur. It was so poor I thought I hadn't put enough in the bucket, although it was the directed amount.
Bodywork Shampoo Conditioner is low foaming by design. It was never developed to be a high foaming shampoo. If you want foam go for Pure Shampoo or UHD Shampoo.
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