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Old 02-06-2018, 09:54 PM   #11
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Ok will need your advice.

I had though bilberry was a mild non aggressive wheel cleaner...

Is the C5 coating likely to be beyond recovery or will a few shampoos help?
Like a lot of wheelcleaners marketed as safe and acid free, it is a strong alkaline.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:54 PM   #12
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Ok will need your advice.

I had though bilberry was a mild non aggressive wheel cleaner...

Is the C5 coating likely to be beyond recovery or will a few shampoos help?
What dilution rate did you apply at? Strong bilberry may welll have compromised the C5 layer. C5 should nee little more than shampoo, maybe mild Pre wash soak and occasional W6 fallout remover to keep coating active. A C2v3 mistover works to prolong life.

You will still need to hand wash, but shouldn't require much effort.
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Dilution rate was around 8:1 maybe 10:1

I though fallout remover woukd be similar to bilberry?

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Old 03-06-2018, 02:49 PM   #14
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Think this shows the issue whilst not the greatest quality photo, this is the wheel after bilberry and pressure washing off....

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Just had alook at Gtech sub-forum and for a similar problem they recommended using GWash, W5 citrus cleaner (neat) and W6 fallout remover- it your fallout remover was too strong then just try the first two ( I can't see another fallout helping much- however 'like often corrects like'?).

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Old 03-06-2018, 07:28 PM   #16
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Dilution rate was around 8:1 maybe 10:1

I though fallout remover woukd be similar to bilberry?

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W6 is far less aggressive than Biillberry. W6 focuses on iron particles, and si optimised to not impact C5 etc. Bilberry is a strong alkailine cleaner. Optimised on cleaning dirty alloys overall.
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Thanks all.

I couldn't find the same thread you mentioned Suds - is using the gwash, w5 and W6 aimed at reinvigorating the coating or just for the weekly wash routine (which sounds expensive for a coating which is designed to make cleaning easier)?

Can C5 be reapplied without having to strip off what's existing and would that make any difference do you think?

....scratching my head a bit as the current grabbiness and inability for a pressure wash to take the layer of dirt/grime off it renders it harder to clean than before (they were easier to clean prior to painting and C5 coating with a washer)

The photos show water pooling rather than beading which makes me think the coating, for whatever reason, has broken down or not working.........

Is there hope??
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Go to 'manufacturers and private label brands' forum, Gtechniq sub forum and search down for... CSL + Exo 'grabby' thread. In fact if you re-post your query Gtechniq will answer directly
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