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Old 12-06-2018, 07:25 PM   #11
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My area is similar - lots of 50mph's down to 30. We have the same issue where the Police set the camera's just inside the lower limit. I know that you should be doing the correct (or below) speed when you pass the sign but it's ridiculous to drop 20mph in such a short distance. In fact, if you did, and someone rear ended you, you'd probably get done for driving without due care and attention.

We all know there has to be some rules to keep the roads safe, but the method they use to enforce the law is simply a revenue generating exercise and no thought given to safety

It doesn't matter if you slow down rapidly and someone hits you in the tail, it's their fault not yours. No matter the circumstances.
I once had someone stop in a roundabout to answer their phone, i was rolling forward and scoping the traffic on the roundabout, or lack of it, looked away for 5 seconds, looked back and was into the back of her car.

Insurance ruled in her favour despite her stopping to answer her phone.
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:12 PM   #12
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I agree with all that is said, I have my trusty road Angel to alert and remind me of speed limits and cameras that are dotted about all over the UK. With so many different speed limits it can be easy to get caught out and especially on unfamiliar roads.

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Old 12-06-2018, 08:15 PM   #13
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I agree with all that is said, I have my trusty road Angel to alert and remind me of speed limits and cameras that are dotted about all over the UK. With so many different speed limits it can be easy to get caught out and especially on unfamiliar roads.

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Old 12-06-2018, 08:18 PM   #14
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My car tells me what the speed limit is on the dashboard but i keep my eyes open when driving
That works for me too, Maybe what I said didn't come across how I intended. But I'm sure you get the gist of it.
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That works for me too, Maybe what I said didn't come across how I intended. But I'm sure you get the gist of it.
i just realised what i typed
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A bit of common sense and awareness means you are at or beneath the speed limit s you reach the sign - it's not difficult
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:46 PM   #17
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When I was taught to drive, I was taught that where a speed goes from higher to lower and there are rumble strips, lines, speed painted on the road etc, you needed to be at the lower speed before entering. (I hate to use these words considering current UK affairs but like a Hard Border)

However, if there were no such road markings, just the signs on the posts, you start to slow down before you enter but gradually with traffic meaning you would enter the 30mph zone still over the limit but keep slowing until you get to 30, in a reasonable time. (Soft Border).
Regardless of no road markings or not, you need to be doing the speed indicated on the road sign when you pass it, not over it.

There are plenty of indicators to show a change in the speed limit approaching, lamp posts, houses, change of hazard lines from short to long etc, etc.

I got told while doing my advanced driving course, if you have rumble strips on the approach, then at the start of the strips, you need to be 'off the power' so the car is starting to slow down smoothly.

You don't want to be slamming on the brakes at the last minute to loose the speed. A quick brush of the brakes to loose the speed is fine, but slamming on the brakes is not, shows you're not paying attention, it's uncomfortable for the passengers, and car is unstable!

You need to be matching your speed to the speed limit sign at the exact point you pass it.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:16 PM   #18
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Lots of 60 to 30 round here too in rural N Wales. Speed van sits in a regular spot about 3miles from us about 100yds from the national speed sign. You turn off the main road into a country lane do 200yds then round a bend where it goes to national speed Locals know it but obviously very lucrative catching all the tourists!
Never see him in our village though where a few of the villagers could do with a nice shock😂
A lot of average cameras just gone up in a 15mile section of the country roads due to number of accidents, mainly motorbikes as it's one of those nice open roads that the bikers like. Unfortunately the cameras point out of the zones so don't catch motorbike plates as they enter the zone!!
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I live in a rural area and it's all 60 to 30 and 30 to 60 as you pass through villages.
plenty of these in yorkshire.

same as above, be doing 30 when u pass the sign - good brakes and tyres to slow from 60.

then on the reverse out the village foot to the floor when passed the 30 up to 60, both exhausts and 24 valves singing, fly by the slow accelerators and all perfectly legal as under the limit.

speed van man can smoke it
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This is from the ACPO Police Guidelines from 2002 which has not been updated but is generally considered to the working guide.

1.9 Does proximity to the start or the end of a speed limit on a particular section of road have any operational significance?

A speed limit starts or ends at the exact point on a road indicated by the relevant signs. There is no legal bar to the enforcement of a speed limit from that exact point. There are however operational constraints dependent on the device used. ACPO will not specify a minimum distance from the start or end of a speed limit from which enforcement can place. Enforcement may only take place where the operator is absolutely positive, and a court may subsequently be certain, the whole of the measurement of the speed took place within the speed limit. If there is any chance, whatsoever, that any of the measurement took place, or could have taken place, outside of the speed limit then that measurement will be disregarded.

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http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/rept2005.pdf


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