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Old 22-04-2012, 07:00 PM   #1
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Rainwater Harvesting v Honda Accord

Hi Guys,

Well as soon as I heard about the ban from South East water I started doing a bit of research on rainwater harvesting options. I knew the Kranzle was capable of drawing from a tank, and also that rainwater would be free of calcium and therefore be vastly preferable to the mega hard water I normally use.

I already had two linked water butts at the back of my drive through garage, and knew that these would represent a good first and second flush option as the water coming off the roof can contain contaminants such as moss, grit, bird mess....

Requirements list:
  1. Intermediate bulk container - 1000ltr tank
  2. IBC Connectors
  3. Kranzle filter
  4. DPC plastic sheet and tank tape
  5. Filter funnel
  6. 1" Aquatic grade flexible pipe
  7. Fernox thread sealant

Managed to get 2 tanks for £55-00, which was great as they have been going for £100-00 each locally!! Sold the spare for £62-00 which I was pretty chuffed with tbh

The IBC tanks are super tough plastic liners with a metal frame, in this case I selected one with a metal pallet in preference to wood or plastic, reckon these are the strongest and most durable, if a little heavier. The tanks are used to transport all sorts of liquids, so be careful to check what it held, and that it is professionally cleaned out. I spent a little while getting the tank level on blocks, remember 1ltr water equals 1KG weight....




My better half is far better than me at wrapping presents and helped me cover the plastic liner in a thick dpc plastic, the idea here is to exclude uv light and thereby avoid any issues with the water greening with algae.

I used a standard water butt linking kit from the local Wilkinson's, but as it only came with a 0.5m hose, picked up 2m from an Ebay trader. The hose is aquatic grade and I had to warm the end in boiling water to get the flexibility to fit it to the butt spur.



Basically the tanks fill in turn, and then the water flows into the next one until I'm left with 1500ltrs of lovely soft water.

The only worries I had related to filtering the water, basically for two reasons:
  1. Avoiding damage to pressure washer pump
  2. Avoiding grit being fired through the pw onto paint

The three tank system does a great job of cleaning up the water but added a mesh across the second outlet into the main tank:






In addition I purchased a Kranzle inlet filter which can be cleaned easily, and is fine enough to clean out any stray contaminants:



The next issue was connecting the tank to the pw, and I opted for CPP fittings which are specifically designed and manufactured in the UK for IBC tanks:





I opted for their cam lock system which allows quick release of the water feed pipe from the tank and onto the washer, and I am informed will also avoid air getting drawn into the pump at the connections and thereby avoid pump damage.





The metal arms are pulled back and seal the connectors...





Then all that was left to do was link every thing up, open the valve on the tank, and purge the air from the washer by switching it on and opening the lance.

The good news is that the pressure out of the Kranzle was exactly as if running off of the mains. In fact the snow foam was even thicker, think the softened water may have helped:




The wash process was pretty much business as usual, and I really didn't hold back....





The real bonus was the lack of hard water spotting when I dried the car off, this has always been a real menace, but I reckon I could have let the car air dry and still not had a problem:



The only thing I now need is another 10m of high pressure hose as the 10m I have is not really enough, and it's important to keep the pump close (3m max) to the tank. Anyone who has a spare 10m of Kranzle hose going cheap please pm me

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Old 22-04-2012, 07:23 PM   #2
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Guess this looks a little crazy from your part of the world
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Nice one, great thinking there.
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I will be doing this but my storage tank will be in my garage
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Quick update - I ended the weekend with around 1/3 of overall capacity in the system, so that's around 500ltrs, came home today and I reckon I'm up to 80%, fully expect to be at 100% by tomorrow morning

Really delighted with the collection efficiency...


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Looks great mate! "When I have my house....!..."
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Nice setup. I have two of the standard water butts (as in your picture) that I use to feed my Karcher and that's been working fine. I also bought a water butt pump from Lidl this week so have the option to use that instead/in conjunction with the PW.

You speculated that you could leave the car to dry on its own. I can confim that I did this at the start of the week and it dried without spotting. This was mostly by accident as it was windy so the panels were dry before I'd finished the whole car.
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