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Old 18-11-2018, 05:13 PM   #11
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All in the prep. UHD has always been good and glossy in my experience. After your full wash, decontamination and IPA/Panel wipe down you REALLY REALLY REALLY do need to follow with a either a good hand or machine polish in order to remove any marring or dulling of the finish due to the chemicals you have just used.

Then you can wax it. The LSP has very little to do with the overall finished look of the car, you'll see it at its best naked after polishing. All the wax might do is add a bit of a 'glow' to it due to it being a clear layer over the paint.
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Old 18-11-2018, 05:18 PM   #12
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It is that glow I am missing.

Any products I can apply on top to bring a wetlook.
I read you people as most of the look is in the prep, and I see that.

It might also be some with the lighting. The video I posted at top clearly has a special lighting set, bringing out the effect.
But my car sat in the dealers show room. And I would expect their car show room lighted to show the cars at their best.

Could I put a glaze on top of the wax?
Any other products on top?

Just wanted a bit more glow, wet look, lush or something like that.
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Old 18-11-2018, 05:42 PM   #13
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It is that glow I am missing.

Any products I can apply on top to bring a wetlook.
I read you people as most of the look is in the prep, and I see that.

It might also be some with the lighting. The video I posted at top clearly has a special lighting set, bringing out the effect.
But my car sat in the dealers show room. And I would expect their car show room lighted to show the cars at their best.

Could I put a glaze on top of the wax?
Any other products on top?

Just wanted a bit more glow, wet look, lush or something like that.
Why not wait until it's home and give it the full prep before waxing again?
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Old 18-11-2018, 05:53 PM   #14
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It is that glow I am missing.

Any products I can apply on top to bring a wetlook.
I read you people as most of the look is in the prep, and I see that.

It might also be some with the lighting. The video I posted at top clearly has a special lighting set, bringing out the effect.
But my car sat in the dealers show room. And I would expect their car show room lighted to show the cars at their best.

Could I put a glaze on top of the wax?
Any other products on top?

Just wanted a bit more glow, wet look, lush or something like that.
You could use SRP beneath the UHD; it’ll have been formulated to go over the top of it.

Or you could think about getting another wax, G3 Supergloss Paste Wax has a good reputation on here.

You should probably put some pictures on here so we can see what you are describing.

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Old 18-11-2018, 06:02 PM   #15
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The issue is simply a lack of prep, treat the paint as you would a used car and any wax will look good.
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Old 18-11-2018, 06:10 PM   #16
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Why not wait until it's home and give it the full prep before waxing again?
I have no garage, it is to cold to work on a car where I live. To uncertain weather.
And just the drive from the dealer and home will make the car quite dirty.

So to sum it up.
I would normally not take delivery on a car during winter season. But got burned last time I wanted a car and extended delivery to past winter. Long story short, they could not delivery such a car anymore.

Same procedure now. Been waiting for this car for more than a year. For new buyers, there is a 2 year long delivery que. Have to take the car now.
And again. Not having a garage or access to such.
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I have no garage, it is to cold to work on a car where I live. To uncertain weather.
And just the drive from the dealer and home will make the car quite dirty.

So to sum it up.
I would normally not take delivery on a car during winter season. But got burned last time I wanted a car and extended delivery to past winter. Long story short, they could not delivery such a car anymore.

Same procedure now. Been waiting for this car for more than a year. For new buyers, there is a 2 year long delivery que. Have to take the car now.
And again. Not having a garage or access to such.
what car has a 2 year queue? Its not a tesla is it?
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I concur with all the above. My 'brand new' Passat looked clean and shiny....at first. It was only after I cleaned it and waxed it that I realised it was very dirty and dull when delivered.
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Old 18-11-2018, 06:51 PM   #19
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what car has a 2 year queue? Its not a tesla is it?
Hyundai Kona Electric in Norway.
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Old 18-11-2018, 07:42 PM   #20
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I don't think the UHD should be to blame here.
The car had not sit on a parking lot.
It is brand new, just off the vessel, and on trailer to dealer.
Dealer removed protective plastic and covers/foil. Washed the car down.

Used IPA and went over the car with a swirlspotter, and the paint is in great condition.

My question is now:
Should I have applied a glaze first?
Will the wax even stick to the car if glazed first?

I was under the impression that was on a brand new car would give a great result.
But got dissapointed here.

If we say the car was clean and swirl free. What should I have done in my process to get the wetlook?
When I had a new car delivered I had the opportunity to take off the plastic wrapping etc and do the first wash and decontamination on it.

Car was built in Germany and delivered via train for most the journey and over the sea from Holland.

Using iron fallout remover (iron x at the time) there was LOADS of fallout embedded into the cars paint.

The brand new car needs prepping properly, I decontaminated mine (and had a few maintenance washes) and then waited a month before I then decontaminated again and applied protection (Victoria concours was) to allow the paint to cure (people online seem to be 50/50 on this waiting step, so it’s up to you whether you think it’s right or not)

To answer the questions,
1. No need for a glaze, just prep properly, ipa won’t get everything off, rail dust etc will breach the protective film. Clay, fallout remover, polish if swirls have been introduced, then IPA + LSP

2. A lot of glazes are designed to have waxes or other protection applied on top so you’re safe here! Maybe slightly less longevity depending on products used but if you’re on here I’m assuming you probably won’t mind waxing every few months
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