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Old 17-11-2015, 11:52 PM   #21
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OP; are you fussed about a 'season' or would just prefer a cheaper alternative to the ones you have used?
Nice point

He never even mentioned what weather he used it in 🙊
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Old 18-11-2015, 12:03 AM   #22
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Why hasn't this turned into the... "uses for Guinea pigs - dead or alive" ...... thread ?
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Old 18-11-2015, 04:02 PM   #23
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TBH it's just more out of curiosity! I live in southern Italy so below freezing is somewhat rare...

Plus I have three cars that I look after and am OCD about clean windscreens so much so that people have commented whilst in the car with me

Thanks for the replies! Will look into the Sonax stuff.
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Old 18-11-2015, 05:03 PM   #24
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OP - it's never crossed my mind to make my own, just buy stuff with a low freezing point and dilute it as appropriate.

Prestone (the decent brew, not the -5 or whatever they sell in an amazingly similar bottle!) or Lidl is my preference.

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I guarantee you that this won't do you any good once we get to freezing temperatures. There isn't a chemical in the world which will give you useful freezing point depression at that dilution.
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Why?
Physics, that why

Even the liquid with the lowest freezing point in the world (apparently N,N-diethylmethylamine, at -196DegC) diluted 100-1 with water would freeze just above -2 degC. Anything that would be sold for car windscreens would freeze between 0 and -0.7degC at that dilution ratio.

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As I said, it's mainly out of curiosity! But great to see the wealth of knowledge on here!

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Old 18-11-2015, 11:48 PM   #26
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Why?

It's worked fine for me the last 4 years and a lot better than any other brand

All the other 5l concentrates are just expensive water and already heavily diluted, sonax is a very effective screen wash
Simple science. Look at the chemicals which are used for depression of freezing point. At 1 percent, as you indicated, you will be lucky to depress by 1 degree. Something like IPA at 10 percent will only achieve the region of minus 5. If you have not had issues with a 1 percent dilution, you simply have not had it cold. For winter protection you should be looking at absolute minimum 5 percent alcohol, that just isn't possible with a 1 percent dilution.
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As we both live in countries that dont really require the antifreeze, what Ive been doing is filling the washer bottle and then adding one squirt of AF Avalanche. It cleans well and we know its LSP safe but its probably more expensive then standard screen wash.
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As we both live in countries that dont really require the antifreeze, what Ive been doing is filling the washer bottle and then adding one squirt of AF Avalanche. It cleans well and we know its LSP safe but its probably more expensive then standard screen wash.
If freeze protection is not a thing, it really is worth getting a decent screenwash (it dilutes massively so is very economical). There are all sorts of considerations but avalanche is going to be bunged full of all sorts of things which are neither necessary or desirable. For starters, it is a pretty strongly alkaline product. For my money, a squirt of fairy liquid would be a better bet.
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anyone tried angelwax clarity? i use h2go and this contains that too so win win if its any good during winter?
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For winter protection you should be looking at absolute minimum 5 percent alcohol, that just isn't possible with a 1 percent dilution.
I have the same target for blood alcohol levels during cold snaps just incase!

You can't have much mixer and still maintain 5%
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