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Old 13-02-2017, 01:08 PM   #11
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Huge range of similar products but most would require something like a wax to protect the glaze.



I do respectfully disagree with DrEskimo regarding heat. This is a by-product of polishing rather than a necessary ingredient

Yea I did wonder that as I typed it!

Please feel free to point out when I am talking nonsense...it's not uncommon
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...Please feel free to point out when I am talking nonsense...it's not uncommon
Most of the people I know say the same thing about me, especially my wife
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Huge range of similar products but most would require something like a wax to protect the glaze.
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Hi,

Blackhole is a good product.

...use the Blackhole, with a wax to stop it "washing off" .


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what have you already got?
^^^this

If you have something like Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax in your arsenal then a couple of coats of that over the top of Blackhole should keep you smiling


...Unless your wash regime is particularly harsh???



...but that said - get a DA
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Old 13-02-2017, 03:27 PM   #14
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I'd recommend a DA too. I have a Kestrel DAS6 and its a light and easy to use polisher and you can use a range of pads and backing plates to help make the job easier. I use a 5" plate and hexlogic pads. Orange ones offer a bit of cut for swirls, white is more for polishing and black is for finishing. With your choice of polish and compound as long as you do a bit, check it, do a bit more and check it should be fairly easy to remove the swirls. I have just done my XF, and the paint was swirled to bits. I've only had it 4 months so I blame the last owner With the DA I corrected every panel, measuring the paint depth I took away less than 10 microns in doing so, all my swirls are gone and the paint has a much deeper shine to it. Still took a day to get right but I was getting nowhere by hand, no matter what I was using.

You can try hiding the swirls if you do wish to polish by hand, as mentioned above a good wax over PB Black Hole will work. I used Poorboys as a base, then applied Zaino Z-5 then R222 on my old XType and the finish was pretty good. I could still see the swirls under light but the shine was great.
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Another thing to mention is on my daily driver my aim is to machine compound only every 18-24 months and aim for a 50% correction then glaze and wax

With a lighter machine polish (not compound) in between and wax more often still

IMO you're just chasing your tail unless its a show car kept under wraps

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DrEskimo, took me a while to find this link to an Optimum podcast where they talk about temperatures but eventually I did find it.

http://optimumsynergypodcast.libsyn....****-podcast-9

They start talking about temperatures from the start but around 32.30 they start to say that about 60 degrees C the paint starts to swell and shear when it is being polished and this causes micro fractures and this is one of the reasons why Optimum aim for cool polishing.

They do briefly mention polishing old lacquer paints as these did benefit from heat whilst polishing

Although I am biased towards the Optimum brand I do think some would find this podcast interesting and so if anyone has the time I do recommend it as they do make some interesting points
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