Finishing Polish Gloss test: Menzerna, Meguiars, Dodo Juice

jeroens · 11-04-2009, 11:08 PM

Today was the day for the first Gloss test.
Following up on thread: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=109881

Products tested were:

Menzerna Final Finish (PO 85RD)
Menzerna Final Finish (PO 106 FA)
Dodo Juice - Lime Prime
Meguiars #205 - Ultra Finishing Polish
Meguiars Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner

The test was performed on a BMW E30 scrap Bonnet, which was washed, clayed and half (per test area) was pre-polished with Menzerna Intensive Polish (PO85RD 3.02).

The Bonnet was divided into 5 test areas where each of the products were worked with a new pad. The Pad chosen was a Sonus SFX-3 Spot Pad (4"), used on a Meguiars G220 DA.

After Polishing the individual areas they were cleaned with some Ultimate Detailer and than measured with a Gloss Meter.

Multiple Angles were measured, but the 20 degrees was used to determine the winner.

20 degrees is used to measure high-gloss which is what we are after.

Per area several samples were taken and put into excel.

Upon visual inspection all products, except for the 'Crystal Paint Cleaner', demonstrated that they were able to remove also all defects/swirls in the un-pre-polished areas.

Finally the min, max and average reading calculated and recorded in the chart below.

as you can see the differences between some products are fairly small, especially between the two two Menzerna products.

But surprisingly (at least to me) the Menzerna Final Finish (PO 106 FA) showed even a bit more gloss than the Menzerna Final Finish (PO 85RD).

Therefore, allthough with a very small margin, the winner of this first test is...

The Menzerna Final Finish (PO 106 FA)

However I think it is fair to say the differences are small, also with the #205 and Lime-Prime, and you are probably of best just using the product you enjoy working with best.

I will repeat this test again in two weeks or so but than using a Makita Rotary...

Hope this was helpful

Jeroen

Matthijs · 11-04-2009, 11:17 PM

Very nice test. Interesting to see more. Like testing waxes, or AIO's.
How were the readings before the products?

jeroens · 11-04-2009, 11:26 PM

I unfortunately do not have exact readings on the Menzerna Intensive Polish (PO85RD 3.02), but I actually expect it would be fairly close.

The original bonnet after clay and wash, was reading around 50 to 51.

ahaydock · 11-04-2009, 11:28 PM

Interesting - thanks for sharing.

jeroens · 12-04-2009, 12:01 AM

Just so you know... The trained professional (eye) can barely (not) see any difference in gloss smaller than 5 GU... (so 80 and 85 will look the same to most people...)

Vyker · 12-04-2009, 01:05 AM

This completely appeals to me, great to see such tests conducted and would love to see more.

Thanks for taking the time and sharing this.

irf@n · 12-04-2009, 04:54 AM

Good test

pete001 · 12-04-2009, 05:40 AM

Great test there and thanks for sharing

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Porta · 12-04-2009, 11:27 AM

Nice test, but I guess that the ultimate detailer could have added some extra GU:s.

DAVEE46M3 · 12-04-2009, 11:36 AM

Good test, there should be more tests like this instead of people wasting money on products that do not work

11-04-2009, 11:08 PM	#1
jeroens Washmitt Meister Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 212 Thanks: 30 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Finishing Polish Gloss test: Menzerna, Meguiars, Dodo Juice Today was the day for the first Gloss test. Following up on thread: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=109881 Products tested were: Menzerna Final Finish (PO 85RD) Menzerna Final Finish (PO 106 FA) Dodo Juice - Lime Prime Meguiars #205 - Ultra Finishing Polish Meguiars Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner The test was performed on a BMW E30 scrap Bonnet, which was washed, clayed and half (per test area) was pre-polished with Menzerna Intensive Polish (PO85RD 3.02). The Bonnet was divided into 5 test areas where each of the products were worked with a new pad. The Pad chosen was a Sonus SFX-3 Spot Pad (4"), used on a Meguiars G220 DA. After Polishing the individual areas they were cleaned with some Ultimate Detailer and than measured with a Gloss Meter. Multiple Angles were measured, but the 20 degrees was used to determine the winner. 20 degrees is used to measure high-gloss which is what we are after. Per area several samples were taken and put into excel. Upon visual inspection all products, except for the 'Crystal Paint Cleaner', demonstrated that they were able to remove also all defects/swirls in the un-pre-polished areas. Finally the min, max and average reading calculated and recorded in the chart below. as you can see the differences between some products are fairly small, especially between the two two Menzerna products. But surprisingly (at least to me) the Menzerna Final Finish (PO 106 FA) showed even a bit more gloss than the Menzerna Final Finish (PO 85RD). Therefore, allthough with a very small margin, the winner of this first test is... The Menzerna Final Finish (PO 106 FA) However I think it is fair to say the differences are small, also with the #205 and Lime-Prime, and you are probably of best just using the product you enjoy working with best. I will repeat this test again in two weeks or so but than using a Makita Rotary... Hope this was helpful Jeroen Last edited by jeroens; 11-04-2009 at 11:11 PM.

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jeroens Washmitt Meister Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 212 Thanks: 30 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Just so you know... The trained professional (eye) can barely (not) see any difference in gloss smaller than 5 GU... (so 80 and 85 will look the same to most people...) Last edited by jeroens; 12-04-2009 at 01:15 AM.

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11-04-2009, 11:26 PM	#3
jeroens Washmitt Meister Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 212 Thanks: 30 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	I unfortunately do not have exact readings on the Menzerna Intensive Polish (PO85RD 3.02), but I actually expect it would be fairly close. The original bonnet after clay and wash, was reading around 50 to 51.

12-04-2009, 05:40 AM	#8
pete001 Orbital Oracle Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: southampton Posts: 520 Thanks: 13 Thanked 90 Times in 86 Posts	Great test there and thanks for sharing .

12-04-2009, 11:27 AM	#9
Porta OCD Sufferer (Obsessive Car Detailer) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,269 Thanks: 20 Thanked 126 Times in 112 Posts	Nice test, but I guess that the ultimate detailer could have added some extra GU:s.

12-04-2009, 11:36 AM	#10
DAVEE46M3 Sponge Jockey Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 84 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Good test, there should be more tests like this instead of people wasting money on products that do not work

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