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Old 25-02-2007, 06:07 PM   #1
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Zymöl Vintage vs. Zaino side by side test

I was a bit bored today as well.
I had washed the car yesterday and then given it a quick spritz over Zaino Z8 Gran Finale detail spray and the car was looking just as good as when the Zaino went first went on 5 months ago. Now that might sound really good to most people, but to me it is a little frustrating as I have loads of other gear on my shelves I want to use:



I particularly want to crack open my Zymöl collection:



4oz sample size jars of Carbon, Concours, Destiny, Atlantique and Vintage
...... and I also have this:



which is an 8oz jar of Swissol mystery. I have had this a few years, hence the original Swizöl packaging, before the start of the Zymöl vs. Swissol wars (I can't see why Zymöl got upset by the packaging of their competitor's waxes can you - talk about looking for a fight )

Anyway looking for any excuse I gave the car a close inspection under the Brinkman swirlfinder. I found some marring on the driver's side wing, courtesy of the neighbours cat trying to find somewhere warm to park it's fluffy backside There were also a couple of fine marks on the driver's side of the bonnet left by the same animal as it fled in fear of it's life before it even got a chance to make itself comfy - it hasn't been back, so deep are the emotional scares imprinted in it's little brain

So I cracked out some Menzerna Final Finish PO85RD on a Meguiars Finishing Pad on the Metabo using the Brazo pinnacle technique with a maximum speed of 1300rpm. This took out 90% of the defects after the first set of passes, another set of passes and all had gone and leaving a lovely high gloss finish. This shows that you don't always need a particularly abrasive polish, just a bit of patience. Sorry for the lack of photographic evidence, but I wasn't really expecting to do anything when I popped out to the garage "for 5mins" . Luckily I have a very understanding wife!

So after the polishing I went over the wing and about 1/4 of the bonnet with HD Cleanse. I don't find this as easy to use as Swissol Cleaner Fluid and can't say that it did any better a job either - maybe I will have to persevere and discuss my technique with other Zymöl users? Then I chose to have a go with the Zymöl Vintage applied by hand. This was really nice to use, and by far the easiest paste wax I have used for hand application - maybe that was the HD Cleanse underneath? A little really does go a long way and getting a nice even coat was quite easy. Left it to cure for 5mins or so before buffing off. Then went back and tried a bit of highlighting on the crease & detail lines in the panel - I left this for a good hour before buffing off with a spritz of Field Glaze as it had become quite well bound by then. Lastly a quick wipe down with Field Glaze on the paintwork that had been treated.

Here are some afters - remember just the driver's side wing and about a quarter of the bonnet on the driver's side received the Zymöl Vintage, the rest is still wearing the Zaino.





Yes it looks good but so does the rest of the car in my opinion. A couple of hours after doing this I went up to a Club GTI meet at a local pub and the sun even came out for a bit. Sorry I left my camera behind
I asked a few of the other guys who are into detailing to guess which panel had the Zymöl Vintage telling them the rest of the car had a 5 month old application of Zaino. Only one out of five guessed correctly and to be honest I don't think I would have been able to tell either.

This I have found very interesting. Most surprising is how good the finish is with the Zaino Z5Pro / Z2Pro combination topped with Z8 that even 5 months on it cannot be differentiated from the premium carnuba finish of Zymöl Vintage. Maybe the Zymöl finish will improve with a little more time, which is something I have seen with this type of finish before.

Don't get me wrong I do intend to do the rest of the car with the Zymöl Vintage at some point in the near future. In fact I was intending to bring my Zymöl gear along to the meet at Parc Ferme in a couple of weeks time as hopefully I will get a few pointers into getting the most from. I will leave things as they are for the time being so that the rest of you can see what you think then.

Oh well that past a few hours of the day
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:15 PM   #2
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Looks great Glyn

There really is an art to applying Zymol products and today we found out we were usinr too much HD-Cleanse, having John show us how to use the m correctly has changed how I felt about the products.

John and the Zymol guys will be around to show you whats what on the 11th and I'll get to see some Vintage on a car in the flesh
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:26 PM   #3
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This continued comparrison report will be very intresting to see, the car (as always in your posts) looks great, but i do have a slight fetish for the car and colour choice.

But as a man used to the carnuba type finish and still rather liking it. I recently used some Carlack AIO and SG followed with some Sonus Glanz spray (I know not in the same league as the Zaino) and although i could tell a big difference in the finish I rather liked it.

The plan in the summer, for my motorway hack, will be to get a few coates of SG on then top with Vintage (also testing the has to be over HD principle) for outright durability.

I'll await your thoughts on the Vintage, as i'm sure you'll be looking at both wings in all light types and at every opportunity.
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:26 PM   #4
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Great write up mate

What we always find is that it takes more than a panel or two to fully appreciate the difference when the Vintage is applied, you have to stand back and have a good look

Not everyone will be convinced though and we dont expect to ever convince everyone either, but we believe it is a very, very good wax
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:32 PM   #5
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I am sure you are right Clark. I don't think I have given it a fair crack yet. Like I said I will take my Zymöl along to the Parc Ferme meet and weather permiting do some larger areas. One thing is for sure it was a lovely wax to use and much quicker than the Zaino to get the results.
I am also frustrated by the general orange peel in my paint which is stopping me reaching perfection at present.
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:32 PM   #6
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Great insight Glyn and car is looking as great as ever

I do love zymol as much as the next man - no, more so! I am slowly collecting my way through the range and do really love it. I however hand on heart cannot tell it apart from some other much cheaper LSP's.

That however will not stop me buying more
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I am sure you are right Clark. I don't think I have given it a fair crack yet. Like I said I will take my Zymöl along to the Parc Ferme meet and weather permiting do some larger areas. One thing is for sure it was a lovely wax to use and much quicker than the Zaino to get the results.
I am also frustrated by the general orange peel in my paint which is stopping me reaching perfection at present.
Sounds like a wet sanding job!!!
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again, alot of it is down to how good your eye sight is in my opinion, i'm sure if i posted my car on here with 50/50 and then vintage, not many would be able to tell the difference, but in person you would see a slight "shimmer" that the vintage gives (we definitely saw this on the black S2000)

there's also the durability in its favour too though i guess
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Sounds like a wet sanding job!!!

remember and post pics when you guys have done it
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A credit to Zaino really !!

Very tempted to give it ago, but the syringes scare me :

Just a question, Do you have to use Z2 PRO/ Z5 PRO before Z6 & Z8

Just thinking is it 100% necessary or will other Polishes do

Sorry never really looked into Zaino till now
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