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Old 16-12-2011, 08:22 AM   #21
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Amazing difference Russ , bet it was a bit of a butt clencher

Sounds like Kelly is a great teacher and you are learning an awful lot in a very short space of time.

Can't wait to see the fully finished car
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Old 16-12-2011, 08:34 AM   #22
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Amazing difference Russ , bet it was a bit of a butt clencher

Sounds like Kelly is a great teacher and you are learning an awful lot in a very short space of time.

Can't wait to see the fully finished car
Thanks Ad, and yes I really am! He's been doing this for 19 years and it really shows

The wet sanding isn't too bad but I've had the best possible tuition, which clearly helps a lot. It speaks volumes that I did the door myself (2nd live panel and only 3 panel I've done) completely on my own, with no guidance, and its looking very, very good.

However, similar to polishing and have clogged pads, or not enough polish, there are nuances to wet sanding which affect the overall appearance, so for example when you begin to restore the gloss on 2500-3000 grit, Kelly's finish is a bit glossier than mine... but that should come with time

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Old 16-12-2011, 08:46 AM   #23
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Russ any news on what you've learned from Kelly about the microfibre system. I know you mentioned earlier that you were suprised by removal rates etc.
Would be nice to hear more about this when you have the time.
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Russ any news on what you've learned from Kelly about the microfibre system. I know you mentioned earlier that you were suprised by removal rates etc.
Would be nice to hear more about this when you have the time.
He's firmly a rotary man - I think I've possibly used it a bit more than he has.

What surprised us both was just how much clearcoat it removed compared to a Rotary with Wool

I used the MF system to remove the 4000 grit marks on the first test panel and we took off about 4-6 microns, compared to 1-2 from the rotary. Arguably the MF system finished down a touch better, but as ever with this system any deeper scratches (scoring in this instance) remained as its effectively 'levelling' rather than 'contouring' to the 'bumps' of the clearcoat

The MF system clearly has its place, works very quickly, and reduces risks around heat and pad skipping, but like all paint correction, should be used with caution and in conjunction with a PDG.

Two very clear things have come out of this for me, making me question quite a few threads I've seen on here regarding RDS removal and whether to use hand or machine for wet sanding, but more on that later...
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Looks amazing Russ, such a great learning experience and full credit to you for widening your skills when embarking in a detailing business.

Looks amazing at Kellys Aladins cave, but i can't wait to see some full wet sand details from Midlands Car Care in the future!

Plus, Midlands is a lot closer to me than KDS, if not still a long way!
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Cheers.

The first customer car will be a rear quarter on a Lupo GTI which has had a bad respray...
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Old 16-12-2011, 10:05 AM   #27
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Night and day Russ for sure in terms of looks. I watched the Bentley Megafactories the other night and they wetsand and re polish every car before it goes out.
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Old 16-12-2011, 10:11 AM   #28
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your a brave man to do this to ur golf, but with kelly's guidance i guess ur in safe hands.

the wings look amazing tho. will be one of the best golfs around wen finished.
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now thats stunning cant wait to see the finished article!!! I have to agree with you when it comes to RDS paint removal anf finish.. In my humble opinion its not about removing every defect regardless of the concequences. Detailing is about making the best possible finish with what you have to work with whilst not compromising the integraty of the paint finish or the usage of the vehicle after. no point having it flawless and only 10 microns of clear left and the owner wanting to keep the car for 5-6 years as a daily. I used to be paranoid about my cars once they were finished and took it really bad if other "detailers" questioned why a RDS was not totally removed but then you realise its not your inability its their lack of understanding some times.... Your learning from one of the best Russ and all the best in the future!

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Cheers.

The first customer car will be a rear quarter on a Lupo GTI which has had a bad respray...
I would tread carefully when wet sanding an aftermarket paint job (and a poor one at that) as it can bite you horribly. Worth getting some more tips from Kelly about it as it's not as straightforward as dealing with factory paint.

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