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Old 09-06-2021, 08:41 PM   #1
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Car buying sites - my positive experience and recommendation.

Hi all.
Long winded but read on if you have a minter you may be considering moving on.

A few weeks ago, I read on the BMW X3 G01 forum that the likes of WBAC, Evans Halshaw etc.... were paying good money for nice examples, albeit this was on the X3 forum, I believe it's for any decent 2nd hand car.

Anyways, here's our timeline and offers rec'd for our 2019 X3 M40i with, at the time, 8k miles.

I wouldn't normally post how much we paid for it but I wanted to show true figures and experience with the companies we contacted.

March 2020 - BMW Stratstone Chesterfield - Paid £39,450 - 3.9k miles

2021 -
May 6th
WBAC offer - £37,195 - 8k miles, not too shabby we thought.
WWAC offer - £37,410 - no more offers rec'd/updated by me
E.Halshaw - £37,210 - no more offers rec'd/updated by me (btw, just got another quote just now from EH, now £40,572!!)

May 11th
WBAC - £37,565 - starting to climb

May 17th
WBAC - £38,680 - still climbing

May 22nd
WBAC - £38,680 - no change

June 1st
WBAC - now 8.8k miles as we'd been to Filey and to see the daughter in Chippenham - £39,635 - now above what we paid

June 4th
Car washed, hoovered and cleared out ready for a 'true' WBAC appraisal as their offers are valid for 4 days only.
The car is mint, no alloy damage, 2 tiny stone chips on the front bumper/same panel.

WBAC note the 2 stone chips and say £157 smart repair to fix plus £75 admin fee, although they did add on £25 as the mileage was less than the 9k I put on the quote.
Offered on the day - £39,428 based on the above deductions and additional £25 for the mileage.

Not bad we thought, 15mths and lost £22.
Slight issue, private reg on it, so had to put it on retention last Fri which meant the £39,428 guaranteed on the day was now going to be out of date until the new V5 was rec'd, actually came today.

Had to get a revised offer from WBAC Mon 7th June - now drops to £39,595.
Again, we were ok with that, just meant we were losing another £40 but still, only losing £62 in 15mths.

Got chatting to our neighbour on Monday who recommends Motorway. No fees, value based on info you provide.

Mon 7th June
Motorway offer - £41,500 - WTF is all that about, 2k more than what we paid BMW last year, too good to be true me thinks.

So, I accept that offer but then have to send in multiple photo's of the car, incl seats, dash, boot, wheels and tyre depths plus the 2 stone chips noted by WBAC and I added in a tiny chip on the drivers door side moulding to keep it all above board.

Motorway stood by their valuation as they charge only £50 for stone chips as long as they are on the same panel and not excessive, not bothered by the one on the door.

They then put your car out for bids to varying dealers they use. This was done Tues and guaranteed to have a firm offer by 3pm Tues.
Low and behold, 3.10pm Tues, a guaranteed offer comes thru from the highest bidder which happened to be Arnold Clark, yep, the notorious A.Clark group, at £42,494!!!

So, whats the twist/catch, absolutely zilch.

AC contacted me yesterday and asked which local branch I wanted to drop the car with so that the money could be paid via BACS.

Turned up at Doncaster branch today expecting to get haggled for the stone chips, tyres, valet etc etc.....
No, nothing, just a quick, and I mean quick look around the car where I had to point out the stone chips as the lad didn't see them.

20 mins later, paperwork done and full £42,494, a full £3044 more than what we paid BMW last March, unbelievable Jeff!!!!!

He then showed me their valuation without Motorways bids, £38,805 so no idea how they've bid nigh on 4k over that.

Car on it's way to BMW Irving so I'll keep an eye out for it coming up at, I guess, the £45k mark.

So, WBAC not bad but will knock off what they can but, Motorway, what a pleasure that was after i was very sceptical about them being pie in the sky wideboys, not at all, genuine offers/bids and zero fees.

Got a minter? Try all of the above, you may get a surprise.
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Old 09-06-2021, 09:26 PM   #2
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People always knock traders but in reality they are the best way to sell, after spending 2 years buying cars off private buyers you often find that a trader will turn up, not mess about if the car is as described, pay the money and never be seen again. For some reason people have an issue with a dealer making a profit but surely if you get a price you are happy with then whats the problem ?

I can see more people using the likes of WBAC and the trade pushing people that way by low balling, they can then buy stock that they want rather than buy stuff they don't want.
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It's very strange what's going on. Prices of everything are going up.

I read that WBAC also own Cinch. Rather than selling cars for auction prices, which they also own, they now sell the cars directly.

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It's very strange what's going on. Prices of everything are going up.

I read that WBAC also own Cinch. Rather than selling cars for auction prices, which they also own, they now sell the cars directly.
The text they send with the offer also includes a link to Cinch so they have some connection there also.
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Fair play mate. Bet you didn't think the car would be an investment when you bought it last year! Do you think the condition in which you kept it helped fetch such a good offer?
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Wow, thats great news for you. Very surprising

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Fair play mate. Bet you didn't think the car would be an investment when you bought it last year! Do you think the condition in which you kept it helped fetch such a good offer?
Yeah, I'd say so buddy.

I'd also argue that applying a ceramic coating, namely Nasiol ZR53, to it when we bought it has helped to keep the paintwork nigh on flawless.

I've always joked that if I was to buy a car privately, it'd have to be from myself or a fellow member on DW as we know how to care and maintain our PnJ's.
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Cinch, BCA and WBAC are all the same company.
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Yeah, I'd say so buddy.

I'd also argue that applying a ceramic coating, namely Nasiol ZR53, to it when we bought it has helped to keep the paintwork nigh on flawless.

I've always joked that if I was to buy a car privately, it'd have to be from myself or a fellow member on DW as we know how to care and maintain our PnJ's.
I'd definitely agree. I looked at a few cars for my brother last December. Dealers described as new, absolute swirl central with several deeper scratches and lots of stone chips. Apparently they never noticed them when pointed out. I think people on here are night and day above what's 'acceptable' for a cars condition
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Great news, I think that is some going to have such little depreciation on a newish car. Used car prices are really strong, guess all that holiday money people haven't been spending is going into cars. My mates mini is a 2008 and on autotrader they were asking more that he paid for it in January 2020 at the cheap end when I looked a few weeks back.

He also used motorway to sell his wife's VW Golf 2013 earlier in the year. Think he got a fair offer for it, it had a few marks and was a boggo standard 1.6 Bluemotion S model, 70-80k miles. She was working in Preston and now works in locally so diesel made no sense with it having a DPF, Replaced by a Focus 1.5 Ecoboost 4 Cylinder. Guy showed up put it on a recovery truck and drove it to Liverpool and it went off to northern Ireland. Got some Alloys and some tinted windows in the hand of the dealer by looks.
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