Recommend me a wax / sealant

Adamv · 12-07-2018, 11:02 AM

Hi Guys,

My other half has a year old fiesta in blue which I detailed when we first picked it up new. I washed, clayed, washed and then polished with Menzerna 4000 which I have had a while. then two coats of AG EGP.
This came up well and I was very impressed with the results. The AG EGP seems to last well and I have topped up since at 6 months old.

However, what I have noticed is that some Bird Sh*t has landed on the bonnet and roof. Although removed quickly they have etched the paint slightly.
I have managed to polish most of this out with Menzerna 4000, but wondered if there is something better to use other than the AG EGP to try to protect the paint better for if / when this happens again.

Really I am after something that has good durability, easy to apply and not too expensive. I have ruled out ceramic coating due to the prep that seems to be needed for them. Unless I am wrong.

Any recommendations welcome. Thanks in advance.

matty.13 · 12-07-2018, 12:27 PM

Ag uhd sound perfect for what you want

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dave- · 12-07-2018, 12:49 PM

Collinite 476 is the best protector I have seen and it looks ok, not glossy or glaze like but more warm shine if that makes any sense

Adamv · 12-07-2018, 12:59 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. Would the AG UHD or Collinite 476 give better protection instead of the AG EGP do you think? I've always like the EGP but for some reason it doesn't seem to have protected well this time.

I guess there is no reason why I cannot add either of these over the top of AG EGP?

suds · 12-07-2018, 01:22 PM

As my memory serves I think EGP goes on top as a final layer - wax then EGP should give good protection

Sorry just read your post more closely - if you don't want to go back to scratch then the wax should bond reasonably well but I suspect your EGP has already diminished/gone since application

dave- · 12-07-2018, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamv

Thanks for the suggestions. Would the AG UHD or Collinite 476 give better protection instead of the AG EGP do you think? I've always like the EGP but for some reason it doesn't seem to have protected well this time.

I guess there is no reason why I cannot add either of these over the top of AG EGP?

Yes Collinite has better protection. It is an old fashioned extremely tenacious hard wax that is hard to use. Don't put too much on the car because it will be a swine to get off. Ease of use is terrible but protection and durability are excellent for a wax.

Adamv · 12-07-2018, 02:27 PM

Thanks guys. I think the EGP is still there. I applied it about 2 months back. it is still beading well, but doesn't seem to protect from the birds that well. I guess the more coats I can get the better, so I think I'll do 2 coats EGP and then two of a wax. Hopefully that will give me decent protection and I will then just top up every few months.

From what I remember it is wax over sealant, but maybe I have remembered that wrong.

suds · 12-07-2018, 02:52 PM

Apologies Adams - I was confusing SRP followed by EGP. Can't see a wax topper over EGP being a problem - don't know how long the wax would perform but won't do any harm

That said I used to achieve 6+ months using the old HD wax many years ago - but the wax was applied to clean bare paint to promote longevity- how long is EGP supposed to last?

martec06 · 12-07-2018, 10:44 PM

Remember EGP is an luiqud wax so sealent begore EGP

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Adamv · 17-07-2018, 09:37 AM

I always thought EGP was a sealant?

So have always put wax over the top. I normally get 6 months + in the summer and around 4 Months in winter with EGP.

Maybe there is a better sealant / wax combo I could use which will give better protection. The longevity of RGP I am happy with, but I was hoping the bird cr*p wouldn’t get through it.
Any recommendations welcome of better sealants too then.

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