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Old 23-10-2019, 05:32 PM   #61
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In February 2007, a number of sources, including the British newspaper The Guardian, reported that the AEI had sent letters to scientists offering $10,000 plus travel expenses and additional payments, asking them to critique the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report

Throughout its history, The Washington Times has been known for its conservative political stance.[6][7][8][9] It has drawn controversy for publishing racist content, including commentary and conspiracy theories about United States president Barack Obama[10][11] and support for neo-Confederatism.[12] It has published material promoting Islamophobia.[13] It has published many columns which reject the scientific consensus on climate change,[14][15][16] as well as on ozone depletion[17] and on the harmful effects of second-hand smoke.

Not a stellar endorsement of their objectivity
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Old 23-10-2019, 08:11 PM   #62
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For the interests of completeness, I didn't choose these links for any particular purpose, I hadn't heard about this so googled "500 climate change scientists who wrote to the UN telling them there was no climate change emergency" and these came up.

Lots more out there if anyone is interested.
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Old 23-10-2019, 11:41 PM   #63
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In February 2007, a number of sources, including the British newspaper The Guardian, reported that the AEI had sent letters to scientists offering $10,000 plus travel expenses and additional payments, asking them to critique the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report

Throughout its history, The Washington Times has been known for its conservative political stance.[6][7][8][9] It has drawn controversy for publishing racist content, including commentary and conspiracy theories about United States president Barack Obama[10][11] and support for neo-Confederatism.[12] It has published material promoting Islamophobia.[13] It has published many columns which reject the scientific consensus on climate change,[14][15][16] as well as on ozone depletion[17] and on the harmful effects of second-hand smoke.

Not a stellar endorsement of their objectivity
Objectivity... The Guardian...

But, here it is on the very objective Guardian too, albeit that the article attempts to undermine the letter.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...limate-science

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Old 27-10-2019, 11:37 PM   #64
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Climtate change is normal/cyclical.
Piers Corbyn (Jeremy Corbyn's brother), has rubbished man made climate change for a good while now. I recommed everyone view his evidence.
There are many climate scientists do not agree with the current view of man made climate, but anyone who challenges the narrative struggle with funding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-cIhjJDj3g
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Old 30-10-2019, 04:08 PM   #65
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I thought cows were the major polluters? (According to an article in 'Sheep farming monthly')
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Now its people with Asthma causing climate change lol (Their inhalers apparently cause as much damage as the cows do)
Cant imagine the pollution an asthmatic cow gives off

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Old 31-10-2019, 08:46 AM   #67
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Over population.
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Old 31-10-2019, 10:59 AM   #68
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Couple of articles out over the last few days regarding an "explosion" (hyperbole much?) in sea ice prompting a new ice age... Better get those CO2 levels up or we'll freeze eh?

Makes all the Phd's predicting that we'd have no ice caps by 2012 look a bit silly now. But then, it's not about that... It's a tax scam/control.
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Old 31-10-2019, 12:06 PM   #69
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There is no doubt we contribute to climate change but I am very dubious as to the answers that are presented to us such as electric cars which are no kinder to the environment and some will argue much worse.
I think the west is using climate change as a polital lever to reduce our love of oil, most of which comes from the middle east. The oil trade prevents wars breaking out (The west are avoiding wars with the likes of Iran because of the fear of oil shortages).
I believe the elephant in the room is unsustainable population growth. As long as the 3rd world & China etc are recreating at the rate that they are, our efforts will be completely worthless.
I also have faith in mankind to overcome such issues eventually. For me, I want to see more investment in Space travel. Regardless of climate, we need to learn how to get off this planet anyway if humanity is going to survive.
I don't support groups such as Extinction Rebellion as they are just full of worst case scenario's which when added up spell disaster in 10 - 15 years. This is just bull**** that must be challenged and those who cause others so much hardship when sat in the middle of one of Londons bridges should be carted off and locked up IMO.
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As a geologist I regularly listen to presentations by climate scientists at conferences. Whilst I'm not a climate scientist, there is clear evidence that humans are contributing to climate change. Over the last 800,000 years global CO2 has fluctuated between 200-300 ppm (parts per million). In 2019 the value is 415 ppm. By 2100, climate models predict 900 ppm (a prediction, not certainty). This goes way beyond the normal cyclicity related to periodic heating-cooling of the earth, so much so that we have a new geological time period called the 'Anthropocene' where the activity of humans is the main factor driving climate change. The biggest problem is that this hasn't happened before whilst humans have populated the planet (and for the reasons it is occurring now, i.e. human induced), so predicting what will happen in the future and on what timescale is extremely difficult.

I agree with posts that have highlighted that anthropogenic climate change and what the government decides to do in Westminster regarding taxes/road rules are entirely unrelated. I also get annoyed with unsubstantiated, unscientific scaremongering that only serves to muddy the waters and divert attention from where it is needed.
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