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Old 08-11-2019, 10:05 AM   #21
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****es me of on the A303 Blackdowns if the Retards didn't drive up someones ass they wouldn't need to keep braking every minute.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:47 PM   #22
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One of my pet Peeve's I live in Ayrshire and have a 9.8 mile drive to get to the motorway (if I so choose) the number of "phantom braker's" who hit the brake pedal for every kink, microscopic deviation and non-bend is alarming, I can follow them for mile after mile and even in an automatic never once need to use the brakes.

As the O/P mentions too vast majority of them seem to be ladies too.
If you live in Stewarton and drive to the M77 then to be fair that road has some wuite tight bends. Similar if you head towards the M8.

Anyway it doesn't bother me, not everyone is a super confident driver, they may have recently passed their test or maybe an older driver. I just give them space to drive the way they see fit. But then again I'm not usually in a mssive rush to get anywhere, I'm not a driving god and I tolerate other road users.

I find people sitting with theiur foot on the brake pedal in q's or at traffic lights far more of an annoyance.

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Old 08-11-2019, 02:41 PM   #23
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A good amount of traffic on motorways and dual carriage ways are caused by the brake effect. There doesn't need to be any sort of incident on the M25 to bring the whole road to a halt, just an over eager braker who causes the consertina effect as already described in this thread.

I don't do much motorway driving, well I don't do much driving at all, but the one that does me in is the person who brakes when approaching a speed camera at 28mph. You are already under the limit, you don't need to slow down more! I guess these people fall into the comfort braker category.
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A good amount of traffic on motorways and dual carriage ways are caused by the brake effect.
In my experience its caused by people driving too close to the car in front or not leaving space for a car to enter the lane at a slip road. Instead of gradually creating a space, people drive too close to the car in front, car comes down slip road, car brakes to let them in. There's no need to do that.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:22 PM   #25
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It is when you are following someone who too close to the car in front of them. Every few seconds they put the brakes on. I think why not just build a gap?

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Have you ever taken into consideration that maybe they don’t know the road, they’re a nervous driver, they’ve had a bad day, their passenger is giving them ear ache
All utter crap. These are the kinds of drivers who generally frustrate everyone and show little to no consideration in letting others past them.

They probably do 40 in a 30 as they do 40 regardless of speed limit.
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im like the OP, not the best driver - think last count was 3 cars wrote off - but understand how to drive and how engines work, in a kinda 'engine for dummies'

gear braking seems alien to most and i rekon the people OP where following, in a hyundi i10 or Kia Picanta, would have thought they were the safest drivers in the world. as they cook the brakes and force the OP to over take on a blind corner to save his sanity

for me, after driving 6 hrs from south wales to Hull today, is people not pulling over to the left. them useless overhead displays saying, drink cover, stay off your phone etc shoudl say PULL LEFT YOU CLOWN> YOU DONT OWN THE MIDDLE LANE
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It is when you are following someone who too close to the car in front of them. Every few seconds they put the brakes on. I think why not just build a gap?



All utter crap. These are the kinds of drivers who generally frustrate everyone and show little to no consideration in letting others past them.

They probably do 40 in a 30 as they do 40 regardless of speed limit.

I genuinely can't even think the last time I got stuck behind a driver that was constantly on the brakes and I've not been able to pass.

Is it really frustrating or difficult?
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In my experience its caused by people driving too close to the car in front or not leaving space for a car to enter the lane at a slip road. Instead of gradually creating a space, people drive too close to the car in front, car comes down slip road, car brakes to let them in. There's no need to do that.
Following too closely is exactly the reason for phantom tailbacks.

It's a problem that people don't see that they are part of the issue.
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Following too closely is exactly the reason for phantom tailbacks.



It's a problem that people don't see that they are part of the issue.
I genuinely despair at drivers who dont leave enough space between them and the car in front - its some bizarre notion that they cant let someone in front of them. Is there any wonder why there are collisions.

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Old 08-11-2019, 10:20 PM   #30
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Completely gets me this too!

Also, my new annoyance is people who must think there vehicle is atleast 5ft wider than it actually is!
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